Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
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Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#2I tend to be very skeptical of claims of conspiracy and conspiracy theories in general but I've yet to hear a reasonable theory to explain how Epstein could have killed himself in a cell and unit where suicide is made a practical impossibility. A friend in law enforcement related a story about someone on suicide watch who managed to kill himself by eating/shoving massive amount of toilet paper down his throat and then drinking water (which caused the tissue to expand and suffocate him). After that, toilet paper was issued as needed rather than having rolls available in the cells. They go to INSANE degrees to make self-slaughter impossible in these units.
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#3I tend to be very skeptical of claims of conspiracy and conspiracy theories in general but I've yet to hear a reasonable theory to explain how Epstein could have killed himself in a cell and unit where suicide is made a practical impossibility. A friend in law enforcement related a story about someone on suicide watch who managed to kill himself by eating/shoving massive amount of toilet paper down his throat and the…
Epstein was taken off suicide watch though.
Edit: the rate of suicide is still pretty darn low, and lots of other stuff worth looking in to. Just pointing out that he wasn't on suicide watch at the time.
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#4Wow, I'm so surprised.
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#5I'm fascinated by the idea that someone could have killed and successfully covered up a murder this high profile.
How do you handle the guards? How do you keep the other inmates quiet? Can you get away with bribing a single guard or is a larger operation needed? If you bribe people, how do you get the money to them? How do you keep them quiet when the inevitable investigation happens?
I don't think it's impossible, but if this was a murder then it's fascinating that someone could be this good at assassination.
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#6I'm fascinated by the idea that someone could have killed and successfully covered up a murder this high profile. How do you handle the guards? How do you keep the other inmates quiet? Can you get away with bribing a single guard or is a larger operation needed? If you bribe people, how do you get the money to them? How do you keep them quiet when the inevitable investigation happens? I don't think it's impossible, b…
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Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#7I'm fascinated by the idea that someone could have killed and successfully covered up a murder this high profile. How do you handle the guards? How do you keep the other inmates quiet? Can you get away with bribing a single guard or is a larger operation needed? If you bribe people, how do you get the money to them? How do you keep them quiet when the inevitable investigation happens? I don't think it's impossible, b…
Remember what Hilter said before?
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#8I'm fascinated by the idea that someone could have killed and successfully covered up a murder this high profile. How do you handle the guards? How do you keep the other inmates quiet? Can you get away with bribing a single guard or is a larger operation needed? If you bribe people, how do you get the money to them? How do you keep them quiet when the inevitable investigation happens? I don't think it's impossible, b…
The inmates talked. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-shrieking...
If there was a conspiracy involving the guards, it involved at least two of them. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-... (Non-paywalled summary https://thehill.com/homenews/457346-epstein-guards-fell-asle... )
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#9It doesn't seem that this new claim discusses anything not explicitly mentioned at the time of the suicide decision. See the NYT article on this new report for a fuller discussion, as well as quotes from many pathologists:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-...
Re: Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says
#10I'm fascinated by the idea that someone could have killed and successfully covered up a murder this high profile. How do you handle the guards? How do you keep the other inmates quiet? Can you get away with bribing a single guard or is a larger operation needed? If you bribe people, how do you get the money to them? How do you keep them quiet when the inevitable investigation happens? I don't think it's impossible, b…
It's a little early to call the cover-up "successful." The fact that Baden is on nationwide news media questioning the official suicide narrative probably means a few loose threads haven't been snipped yet.