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Egypt uncovers 'huge cache' of ancient sealed coffins

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Re: Egypt uncovers 'huge cache' of ancient sealed coffins

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The nation of Egypt did something....

I don't like the way some people assert that nations does things. Living beings takes action, other things just are.

I think it is misleading and unhealthy to attribute human action to inanimate things.

I guess some people might think that this statement is to philosophical. Like people don't mean the things they say in a literal sense. I think that if someone should mean the things they write in a literal sense it is journalists.

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The nation of Egypt did something.... I don't like the way some people assert that nations does things. Living beings takes action, other things just are. I think it is misleading and unhealthy to attribute human action to inanimate things. I guess some people might think that this statement is to philosophical. Like people don't mean the things they say in a literal sense. I think that if someone should mean the thi…

You're going to be fighting an uphill battle here; this is a completely normal, natural manner of using language called ["synecdoche"][0]. I would wager that you use it yourself from time to time without even noticing (though I could be wrong).

[0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

Re: Egypt uncovers 'huge cache' of ancient sealed coffins

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The nation of Egypt did something.... I don't like the way some people assert that nations does things. Living beings takes action, other things just are. I think it is misleading and unhealthy to attribute human action to inanimate things. I guess some people might think that this statement is to philosophical. Like people don't mean the things they say in a literal sense. I think that if someone should mean the thi…

You're going to be fighting an uphill battle here; this is a completely normal, natural manner of using language called ["synecdoche"][0]. I would wager that you use it yourself from time to time without even noticing (though I could be wrong). [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

Thanks, interesting that it had a name :)

Yeah I know I do, but when I notice I do try to use different langauge.

Normal does not mean good, it just means normal.

Re: Egypt uncovers 'huge cache' of ancient sealed coffins

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The nation of Egypt did something.... I don't like the way some people assert that nations does things. Living beings takes action, other things just are. I think it is misleading and unhealthy to attribute human action to inanimate things. I guess some people might think that this statement is to philosophical. Like people don't mean the things they say in a literal sense. I think that if someone should mean the thi…

What problems do you see with using synecdoches? I'm usually first to criticize problems in our languages and their use, but I have not considered synecdoches problematic.

Re: Egypt uncovers 'huge cache' of ancient sealed coffins

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My first thought was that it's amazing we're still routinely pulling coffins out of the ground in Egypt.

My second thought was that 10,000 years from now some follow-on replacement for humanity will be staggered at the 30 billion dead bodies we put into the ground. They'll frequently be hitting grave sites when they go to dig into the ground.

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The nation of Egypt did something.... I don't like the way some people assert that nations does things. Living beings takes action, other things just are. I think it is misleading and unhealthy to attribute human action to inanimate things. I guess some people might think that this statement is to philosophical. Like people don't mean the things they say in a literal sense. I think that if someone should mean the thi…

What problems do you see with using synecdoches? I'm usually first to criticize problems in our languages and their use, but I have not considered synecdoches problematic.

When you use language that is imprecise (or inaccurate) and you don't actively think about it you will start to believe those inaccuracies maybe not consciously but on some subconscious level. Having those types of ridiculous ideas in your subconscious is not good for your mental health.

An example that I can take from my life would be talking about the Iraq war. Where a person actually thinks that America is against Iraq.

Ridiculous shit like that. Some people actively think about companies and countries as human beings with emotions I would rather not contribute to that sort of simple minded thing.

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My first thought was that it's amazing we're still routinely pulling coffins out of the ground in Egypt. My second thought was that 10,000 years from now some follow-on replacement for humanity will be staggered at the 30 billion dead bodies we put into the ground. They'll frequently be hitting grave sites when they go to dig into the ground.

From this point of view Earth could become a very popular place for galactic tourism, they could sell a lot of souvenirs.

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What problems do you see with using synecdoches? I'm usually first to criticize problems in our languages and their use, but I have not considered synecdoches problematic.

When you use language that is imprecise (or inaccurate) and you don't actively think about it you will start to believe those inaccuracies maybe not consciously but on some subconscious level. Having those types of ridiculous ideas in your subconscious is not good for your mental health. An example that I can take from my life would be talking about the Iraq war. Where a person actually thinks that America is against…

In this case, I don't think anyone is subconsciously imagining the literal country of Egypt cracking open an ancient tomb, but rather "the people over in Egypt who do that sort of thing". There's artistic expression in figurative speech and I think it enhances average intelligence of the population by existing. A common trope in distopian fiction is banning of figurative speech as a form of fascist mind control.
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