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Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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As much as I fear the China with regard to censorship, I think this could be a wise move for all social media platforms.

There are two reason why I think this:

a) Political advertising on social media is very hard to police as you can create huge amount of versions of each ad and target very different audiences.

b) Political advertising at volume favors the richest campaigns with the largest amount of knowledge about their targets.

By blanket removing political advertising from these platforms more focus would have to be made for more traditional forms of political work (door to door etc) and thus a slower more deliberate political climate.

It is by no means panacea but a good start.

Norway has always forbiden political TV-advertising, something that I think has helped the debate stay a bit less polarized, though that has changed with the advent of Facebook and it's ilk.

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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Political advertising should be banned entirely in my opinion.

As a side note, I wish there was less exposure to political opinion in general. I think there's a problem in how a single celeb, or a close friend talking about their political views can be so influential. Not because they've made a particularly good argument, but because that person is trusted or looked up to.

I often wonder how we would vote if we were blind to the opinions of the media, celebs and friends. I find it fascinating how political memes exist and evolve for almost no reason. How one generation can be almost universally opposed to something like gay marriage, then suddenly in just a generation the majority of the population is in almost religious support of it.

Would this happen if we were forced to think about politics for ourselves instead of relying on the main stream opinion for what's right and wrong? As someone on the spectrum I find frustratingly difficult to find anyone with their own takes on the popular political topics of the day.

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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post #2

As much as I fear the China with regard to censorship, I think this could be a wise move for all social media platforms. There are two reason why I think this: a) Political advertising on social media is very hard to police as you can create huge amount of versions of each ad and target very different audiences. b) Political advertising at volume favors the richest campaigns with the largest amount of knowledge about…

This isn't about political ads, it's about silencing any politics on the platform.

There are over 80 million US downloads of TikTok as of October 2018, with an active user count of 40 million [1]. This means China's authoritarian regime is influencing the political discussion of 40m+ US citizens.

You say this ban is good, I disagree. In the US, a lack of informed political discussion is one major factor keeping young voters away from the polls. It also prevents global free speech from reaching 400 million Chinese users.

1. https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tik-tok-statistics/

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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As much as I fear the China with regard to censorship, I think this could be a wise move for all social media platforms. There are two reason why I think this: a) Political advertising on social media is very hard to police as you can create huge amount of versions of each ad and target very different audiences. b) Political advertising at volume favors the richest campaigns with the largest amount of knowledge about…

This isn't about political ads, it's about silencing any politics on the platform. There are over 80 million US downloads of TikTok as of October 2018, with an active user count of 40 million [1]. This means China's authoritarian regime is influencing the political discussion of 40m+ US citizens. You say this ban is good, I disagree. In the US, a lack of informed political discussion is one major factor keeping young…

> a lack of informed political discussion

Was TikTok was an appropriate place for informed political discussion?

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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As much as I fear the China with regard to censorship, I think this could be a wise move for all social media platforms. There are two reason why I think this: a) Political advertising on social media is very hard to police as you can create huge amount of versions of each ad and target very different audiences. b) Political advertising at volume favors the richest campaigns with the largest amount of knowledge about…

This isn't about political ads, it's about silencing any politics on the platform. There are over 80 million US downloads of TikTok as of October 2018, with an active user count of 40 million [1]. This means China's authoritarian regime is influencing the political discussion of 40m+ US citizens. You say this ban is good, I disagree. In the US, a lack of informed political discussion is one major factor keeping young…

But isn't TikTok specifically talking about paid ads in this article?

Our parent wrote that paid political advertising is favoring those with the greatest amount of money to spend and therefore (as far as I understood) reducing the quality of political conversation. (Which sounds plausible to me, since money is a factor largely unrelated to quality.)

You seem to imply that paid political advertising is increasing the quality of the discourse. Is that right? If yes, I'd love to know why!

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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post #3

Political advertising should be banned entirely in my opinion. As a side note, I wish there was less exposure to political opinion in general. I think there's a problem in how a single celeb, or a close friend talking about their political views can be so influential. Not because they've made a particularly good argument, but because that person is trusted or looked up to. I often wonder how we would vote if we were…

Define "political" lobbying for improved minimum wages is political as would be climate change.

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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post #3

Political advertising should be banned entirely in my opinion. As a side note, I wish there was less exposure to political opinion in general. I think there's a problem in how a single celeb, or a close friend talking about their political views can be so influential. Not because they've made a particularly good argument, but because that person is trusted or looked up to. I often wonder how we would vote if we were…

> How one generation can be almost universally opposed to something like gay marriage, then suddenly in just a generation the majority of the population is in almost religious support of it.

This is a bit ironic way to phrase it since (in some areas) the previous generation was against gay marriage under the influence of religious institutions. (to a significant degree anyway) The new generation has very non-religious support for it.

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As much as I fear the China with regard to censorship, I think this could be a wise move for all social media platforms. There are two reason why I think this: a) Political advertising on social media is very hard to police as you can create huge amount of versions of each ad and target very different audiences. b) Political advertising at volume favors the richest campaigns with the largest amount of knowledge about…

This isn't about political ads, it's about silencing any politics on the platform. There are over 80 million US downloads of TikTok as of October 2018, with an active user count of 40 million [1]. This means China's authoritarian regime is influencing the political discussion of 40m+ US citizens. You say this ban is good, I disagree. In the US, a lack of informed political discussion is one major factor keeping young…

> In the US, a lack of informed political discussion is one major factor keeping young voters away from the polls.

I agree.

But the purpose of political advertising is to misinform.

Re: TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about political ads, it's about silencing any politics on the platform. There are over 80 million US downloads of TikTok as of October 2018, with an active user count of 40 million [1]. This means China's authoritarian regime is influencing the political discussion of 40m+ US citizens. You say this ban is good, I disagree. In the US, a lack of informed political discussion is one major factor keeping young…

> a lack of informed political discussion Was TikTok was an appropriate place for informed political discussion?

The forum is the right place for political discussion, regardless of what the forum is. As for the political discussion being "informed", that is subjective.
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