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LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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This is fantastic. I would like to see wider legislation allowing scraping of IMDB, Genius, Reddit, Facebook, and Google made legal. These services receive free input from users. The data should remain free.

Edit (sort of off topic): There's still value in the building and providing services at scale, but this lowers the barrier to cross the moat for small players. The first step is data liberation. Then we can work to bring down the other cost barriers. It's a lot easier to build services that scale in 2019 than it was in 2005.

The semantic web was misguided in 200X, but we might want to take another swing at it in the future.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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post #2

This is fantastic. I would like to see wider legislation allowing scraping of IMDB, Genius, Reddit, Facebook, and Google made legal. These services receive free input from users. The data should remain free. Edit (sort of off topic): There's still value in the building and providing services at scale, but this lowers the barrier to cross the moat for small players. The first step is data liberation. Then we can work…

for IMDb, they have a lot of data that is easily accessible, not sure what is missing though: https://datasets.imdbws.com/...

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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I'm torn. On the one hand, scraping helps break down walled gardens. On the other, we're talking about personal details being used in novel ways that no LinkedIn user probably understands. I doubt any LinkedIn user writes their profile expecting HiQ to scrape it, assign a "flight risk" score and alert your bosses.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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post #2

This is fantastic. I would like to see wider legislation allowing scraping of IMDB, Genius, Reddit, Facebook, and Google made legal. These services receive free input from users. The data should remain free. Edit (sort of off topic): There's still value in the building and providing services at scale, but this lowers the barrier to cross the moat for small players. The first step is data liberation. Then we can work…

Another side of this is that the entity doing the scraping is more often than not another company. Which means that if your proposal is implemented, a user can voluntarily give their personal data to Google/Reddit/Facebook etc but that company then has to make the user's personal data available to another company.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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I'm torn. On the one hand, scraping helps break down walled gardens. On the other, we're talking about personal details being used in novel ways that no LinkedIn user probably understands. I doubt any LinkedIn user writes their profile expecting HiQ to scrape it, assign a "flight risk" score and alert your bosses.

The users agreed to publish their details publicly on LinkedIn. It’s normal that anyone can access those details and use them however they like.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

#7

I'm torn. On the one hand, scraping helps break down walled gardens. On the other, we're talking about personal details being used in novel ways that no LinkedIn user probably understands. I doubt any LinkedIn user writes their profile expecting HiQ to scrape it, assign a "flight risk" score and alert your bosses.

I'd personally call HiQ's business model bottom feeding.

However restricting access to public information on the internet will benefit only the established titans. So this ruling is great news.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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I'm torn. On the one hand, scraping helps break down walled gardens. On the other, we're talking about personal details being used in novel ways that no LinkedIn user probably understands. I doubt any LinkedIn user writes their profile expecting HiQ to scrape it, assign a "flight risk" score and alert your bosses.

Same here. On one hand, this lessens the monopoly power of large tech companies, on the other hand, it gives users less control over their data.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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I'm torn. On the one hand, scraping helps break down walled gardens. On the other, we're talking about personal details being used in novel ways that no LinkedIn user probably understands. I doubt any LinkedIn user writes their profile expecting HiQ to scrape it, assign a "flight risk" score and alert your bosses.

Users know their information is public and they have the option to make it private on Linkedin. If Linkedin is worried about the privacy of their users they should let them know about the risks of having a public profile.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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post #6

I'm torn. On the one hand, scraping helps break down walled gardens. On the other, we're talking about personal details being used in novel ways that no LinkedIn user probably understands. I doubt any LinkedIn user writes their profile expecting HiQ to scrape it, assign a "flight risk" score and alert your bosses.

The users agreed to publish their details publicly on LinkedIn. It’s normal that anyone can access those details and use them however they like.

What if there could be a robot.txt kind of setting that users could use to prevent being scraped?
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