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We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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While I think it is good to create inexpensive healthy high protein foods, I also think we should have a fair free market for people who want to continue buying real meat, organic foods, non GMO foods, cheap foods produced with GMO and petrochemicals. Free choice and a free market, with strict accurate labeling laws is what I want.

Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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While I think it is good to create inexpensive healthy high protein foods, I also think we should have a fair free market for people who want to continue buying real meat, organic foods, non GMO foods, cheap foods produced with GMO and petrochemicals. Free choice and a free market, with strict accurate labeling laws is what I want.

For sure. I mean, claims like:

> The impact of this disruption on industrial animal farming will be profound. By 2030, the number of cows in the U.S. will have fallen by 50% and the cattle farming industry will be all but bankrupt.

This is ridiculous. I'm not going to stop eating beef because of the availability of cheap weird unproven lab-grown protein. I might try the latter, maybe feed it to my pets, but as long as I can reasonably afford to eat real meat, I'm going to do so.

The market that will suffer most is probably going to be the non-GMO organic stuff you mention, because it's already that much more expensive than the cheap stuff, so it will be even harder to justify for most folks, esp. if the lab-grown replacements get endorsed as being Healthy by the right Authorities on the issue.

Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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While I think it is good to create inexpensive healthy high protein foods, I also think we should have a fair free market for people who want to continue buying real meat, organic foods, non GMO foods, cheap foods produced with GMO and petrochemicals. Free choice and a free market, with strict accurate labeling laws is what I want.

For sure. I mean, claims like: > The impact of this disruption on industrial animal farming will be profound. By 2030, the number of cows in the U.S. will have fallen by 50% and the cattle farming industry will be all but bankrupt. This is ridiculous. I'm not going to stop eating beef because of the availability of cheap weird unproven lab-grown protein. I might try the latter, maybe feed it to my pets, but as long a…

Do you ever eat at Taco Bell or McDonalds? Their beef is pretty much flavored soy at this point. Most consumers aren't going to be "knowingly" apart of this shift, I feel.

Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For sure. I mean, claims like: > The impact of this disruption on industrial animal farming will be profound. By 2030, the number of cows in the U.S. will have fallen by 50% and the cattle farming industry will be all but bankrupt. This is ridiculous. I'm not going to stop eating beef because of the availability of cheap weird unproven lab-grown protein. I might try the latter, maybe feed it to my pets, but as long a…

Do you ever eat at Taco Bell or McDonalds? Their beef is pretty much flavored soy at this point. Most consumers aren't going to be "knowingly" apart of this shift, I feel.

Citation?

"McDonald’s hamburger patties in the U.S. are made with 100% USDA-inspected beef. They are cooked and prepared with salt, pepper and nothing else; no preservatives, no fillers."

From: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mcdonalds-100-beef/

Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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The reduction in land could be even higher if the energy for the fermentation is produced by non-biological means. That is, instead of feeding the bacteria plant-derived compounds, feed them CO2, water and electrical energy. Photovoltaics are an order of magnitude more efficient than photosynthesis, can operate in places and times plants cannot grow (deserts, below freezing conditions), and require negligible amounts of water.

Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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Its all pretty obvious except the time line which is where the only value is.

It counts on lab meat hitting $ parity in 2021. Not sure it will.

The food as software is also a bit junky, no one has managed that across any industry yet. But it'll happen in a more informal way. Which will also slow their prediction.

Re: We are on the cusp of a disruption in food and agricultural production

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you ever eat at Taco Bell or McDonalds? Their beef is pretty much flavored soy at this point. Most consumers aren't going to be "knowingly" apart of this shift, I feel.

Citation? "McDonald’s hamburger patties in the U.S. are made with 100% USDA-inspected beef. They are cooked and prepared with salt, pepper and nothing else; no preservatives, no fillers." From: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mcdonalds-100-beef/

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