Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
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Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
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Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#2interesting, does this mean Google does not care about the Russian market much? also, why doesn't Yandex try to expand beyond Russia ?
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#3Ouch.
I can't help but think using the Swedish Google to search for Russian is hardly a perfect example of science here.
Why isn't he using google.ru? I have no idea if it would return different results, but his current article doesn't prove as much as he thinks it does.
(Although, Library of Congress? Seriously?)
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#4Great article about language as the last man standing against globalism. If you ever have to manage the translation of a piece of software into a different language, you will find two kinds:
One in western chars where you can get a feeling about the translators work and one in different chars like russian, japanese, chinese, arabic where you don't get a ghost of idea what is written there.
For search engines this is much harder: if you don't employ a sufficient numbers of native speakers for these languages, you will never get sufficient results. All other employees can't help you out. Translation software is useless, if you don't know how to weight the possible results from the cultural canon. A cyrillic reader expects to find the russian state library on top when looking for a lib, not the library of congress.
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#5Ouch. I can't help but think using the Swedish Google to search for Russian is hardly a perfect example of science here. Why isn't he using google.ru? I have no idea if it would return different results, but his current article doesn't prove as much as he thinks it does. (Although, Library of Congress? Seriously?)
Yeah, hardly scientific, but it's at least anecdotal evidence that there's some room for improvement. Like you I wonder how different the results are with google.ru though. I live in Ireland, but sometimes do queries in Dutch. Google.nl often gives different and much better results for those than google.ie.
Also slightly off-topic: I appreciate that English isn't the author's first language, but, wow, that was painful to read. I feel his point might come across a bit stronger without sentences like "Or perhaps a painkiller should be administered to dispense the suffering of google as we strike with the mercykill?" or "Perhaps it is time for google to crash down on the matress of bitter disappointment as well, a la black swan."
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#6Ouch. I can't help but think using the Swedish Google to search for Russian is hardly a perfect example of science here. Why isn't he using google.ru? I have no idea if it would return different results, but his current article doesn't prove as much as he thinks it does. (Although, Library of Congress? Seriously?)
Good question. I am a Russian speaker - ran the same searches on google.ru and got much better results (than google.se). Were Google.ru's results better than Yandex? Probably not.
Perhaps the problem isn't quite as fundamental (non-English NLP sucks) but has more to do with secondary Locale handling in specific countries?
Interesting observation on US-centricity (is that a word?) nonetheless. Many major US Corps derive > 50% rev from outside of US. Not sure if GOOG is one of those.
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#7Most of all, google cannot find information in my blog (it is in russion and it is Lifejournal one) for a long time while yandex still can (Yandex Blogs).
Google search is quite forgetful. After certain amount of time you just cannot find something you need.
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#8Europeans have invented PHP, Linux, Python, C++, Ruby on Rails, Opera browser, Skype etc.
should promote european better search engines more , otherwise average-level product makers like Google and Microsoft will take over the world
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#9Ouch. I can't help but think using the Swedish Google to search for Russian is hardly a perfect example of science here. Why isn't he using google.ru? I have no idea if it would return different results, but his current article doesn't prove as much as he thinks it does. (Although, Library of Congress? Seriously?)
We don't know what the settings of his computer are (the fact that the UI is in english makes me guessing he has the "hl=en" setting). He should add "&hl=ru" to the url to make sure he is searching the russian version of Google.
Re: Why Google is not winning in Russia - and unexpected search comparison results
#10Well comparing a search for a russian word in the US version of Google vs the same search in Yandex, this are not unexpected results... He should compare to the russian version of Google.