Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
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Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
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#2This is so terrible. There is an enterprise market for mature electronic locking systems, as they are used in virtually any modern office building. And then there is the (affordable) consumer market, and most stuff even looks crappy.
I really would invest 500€ for a small (3 outdoor locks) system, but there is virtually no product which I can trust in.
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#3This is probably the sole reason I went with an August (don't buy their doorbell, BTW), which effectively slips over the existing deadbolt knob. Now I just have to worry about August's BT/software/network stacks, but I don't have to wonder about how good the lock is. With something like the lock in the article, I have to worry about the tech side and how much effort they put into the lock. I almost wonder if, like so many tech "innovations" today, if they didn't just wrap some tech around an unvetted lock mechanism they found on Alibaba and called it day when the software worked.
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#4Slightly related to this, the Lock Picking Lawyer on Youtube has number of videos where he tries a Ramset gun [1] against different padlocks. For example:
This was interesting as it was an attack that certainly would not have crossed my mind. Would be interesting to see how other types of locks would do against this kind of tool.
[1] https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramset-MasterShot-0-22-Caliber-P...
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#5Why even put the lock on the outside? All smart locks I've encountered just communicate wirelessly with a smart lock inside. Physical keys are used as a backup.
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#6Why even put the lock on the outside? All smart locks I've encountered just communicate wirelessly with a smart lock inside. Physical keys are used as a backup.
yeh regular key lock in the door, electronic cam release of the for latch in the frame seems like a much more robust set-up. seal the gadgets in the wall on the inside of the room, no batteries or moving cables.
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#7The video is a compelling demonstration of a design flaw, but I am always skeptical of lock opening displays that do not occur in a real-world application of the lock.
Yeah, you ramsetted a lock. In a vise. Can you do that if it is dangling from a chain between two gate halves? Or would you bring out a bench and vise to your target?
Ok, you picked a lock. In a vise. Is it easily pickable while hanging from a hasp, with a door behind it?
Ok, you drilled open a smart lock. Is the drill able to be positioned in such a manner when the lock is installed on a door?
It doesn't look like it.
After drilling, you need to insert a screwdriver and manipulate a latch.
Is drilling/manipulating faster/slower/easier/more difficult than picking, raking, ramsetting, grinding, kicking, or prying?
I like clever, but clever isn't always practical.
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#8Isn't the point of a lock just to keep honest people honest? I mean you can buy the world's sturdiest, more secure lock and attach it to the world's strongest door, someone with a hammer can easily break a window.
If someone is determined and willing, there really is nothing you can do to stop them from breaking into your house.
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#9Isn't the point of a lock just to keep honest people honest? I mean you can buy the world's sturdiest, more secure lock and attach it to the world's strongest door, someone with a hammer can easily break a window. If someone is determined and willing, there really is nothing you can do to stop them from breaking into your house.
>Isn't the point of a lock just to keep honest people honest? I mean you can buy the world's sturdiest, more secure lock and attach it to the world's strongest door, someone with a hammer can easily break a window.
In my home, the locks and windows (laminated glass[0]) are hard enough to break that when you attempt to do so I have time to ready my firearm. Something like this would potentially allow someone to sneak up more quickly and perhaps undetected. When my family isn't home I don't really care if you break into my house, insurance will cover the loss.
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#10Isn't the point of a lock just to keep honest people honest? I mean you can buy the world's sturdiest, more secure lock and attach it to the world's strongest door, someone with a hammer can easily break a window. If someone is determined and willing, there really is nothing you can do to stop them from breaking into your house.
it keep those who are in between. Some people would steal if it easy but not if it hard.