CentOS Stream

#1

Post by swonderl » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 3:43 PM UTC

Re: CentOS Stream

#2

Post by tapoxi » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:14 PM UTC

So this is confusing. Does this mean following a Chrome-ish lifecycle of Fedora > CentOS Stream > RHEL/CentOS? Where do Atomic Host/CoreOS fit in?

Re: CentOS Stream

#3

Post by znpy » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:16 PM UTC

yes, it's nice and everything, but where is CentOS 8.0 ?

Re: CentOS Stream

#4

Post by snuxoll » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:17 PM UTC

tapoxi wrote: post #2

So this is confusing. Does this mean following a Chrome-ish lifecycle of Fedora > CentOS Stream > RHEL/CentOS? Where do Atomic Host/CoreOS fit in?

More or less what I got as well. This is a welcome change for ISVs and IHVs, and I’m glad to see CentOS have a place in the family beyond “RHEL for people who don’t want to pay for support”.

Re: CentOS Stream

#5

Post by snuxoll » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:18 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #3

yes, it's nice and everything, but where is CentOS 8.0 ?

Just released today, as scheduled.

Re: CentOS Stream

#6

Post by LaSombra » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:18 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #3

yes, it's nice and everything, but where is CentOS 8.0 ?

https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.1905

Re: CentOS Stream

#7

Post by znpy » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:20 PM UTC

LaSombra wrote: post #6

znpy wrote: post #3

yes, it's nice and everything, but where is CentOS 8.0 ?

https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.1905

thanks :) I was expecting to see it on the homepage, frankly...

Re: CentOS Stream

#8

Post by simias » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:22 PM UTC

I like it, at least in theory. I develop some industrial software that runs on RHEL so being able to run somewhat similar distribution on my machine would be convenient. I tried running CentOS but it was too frustrating and limiting to deal with all the outdated packages on a dev machine.

I suppose it will also be good for devs who just like the RHEL environment but don't need a super stable, outdated packages.

Re: CentOS Stream

#9

Post by techdevangelist » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:36 PM UTC

simias wrote: post #8

I like it, at least in theory. I develop some industrial software that runs on RHEL so being able to run somewhat similar distribution on my machine would be convenient. I tried running CentOS but it was too frustrating and limiting to deal with all the outdated packages on a dev machine. I suppose it will also be good for devs who just like the RHEL environment but don't need a super stable, outdated packages.

Agreed, and I’ve appreciated RH putting in effort like Software Collections to bring more modern versions of tools. The implementation may leave a bit to be desired of SCL packages but it could be worse with 3rd party RPMs.

Re: CentOS Stream

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Post by bubblethink » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 4:46 PM UTC

>CentOS Stream is parallel to existing CentOS builds

So why does regular CenOS exist in this day and age given its semi-official status under the RH umbrella ? Why doesn't RH just let people use RHEL without support ? Isn't it a massive waste of everyone's resources to rebuild everything and remove the trademarks? This seems like a more interesting future for CentOS to have as something different from baseline RHEL.