Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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Post by insiderinsider » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 1:04 AM UTC

Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE
fbo.gov

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Post by icegreentea2 » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 AM UTC

Where does it say they provide facial recognition software? I looked through the attached "Limited Sources Justification" PDF and the three areas they claim to be using Adobe software for are "Digital Media" (this is Acrobat and Reader), "Digital Marketing" (Creative Suite) and "Digital Meetings".

Maybe this is the wrong contract??

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Post by jaboutboul » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 1:58 AM UTC

Where does this discuss facial recognition? All I see is information related to the standard Adobe products, Acrobat/PDF, Creative Suite and others. They may be used in support for a facial recognition application but that’s all I see.

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Post by rammy1234 » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 AM UTC

icegreentea2 wrote: post #2

Where does it say they provide facial recognition software? I looked through the attached "Limited Sources Justification" PDF and the three areas they claim to be using Adobe software for are "Digital Media" (this is Acrobat and Reader), "Digital Marketing" (Creative Suite) and "Digital Meetings". Maybe this is the wrong contract??

If this is wrong why is this not still taken out ?

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Post by manigandham » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:00 AM UTC

It's perfectly legal and fine for companies to provide products and services to their home governments. What's the issue here?

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Post by adamnemecek » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:01 AM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #5

It's perfectly legal and fine for companies to provide products and services to their home governments. What's the issue here?

Legal maybe, moral idk, given what they do.

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Post by ndespres » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 AM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #5

It's perfectly legal and fine for companies to provide products and services to their home governments. What's the issue here?

Ok, but sometimes our moral compass points away from these things and we need to make hard decisions to do the right thing.

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Post by duncan-donuts » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 AM UTC

icegreentea2 wrote: post #2

Where does it say they provide facial recognition software? I looked through the attached "Limited Sources Justification" PDF and the three areas they claim to be using Adobe software for are "Digital Media" (this is Acrobat and Reader), "Digital Marketing" (Creative Suite) and "Digital Meetings". Maybe this is the wrong contract??

The only thing I can come up with is there is a part that says something like “user-facing, business-facing” which seems like what may have been confused? The LSG only talks about using well known adobe products.

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=6f4e5737cc7bd661210bf56766...

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Post by manigandham » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 AM UTC

adamnemecek wrote: post #6

manigandham wrote: post #5

It's perfectly legal and fine for companies to provide products and services to their home governments. What's the issue here?

Legal maybe, moral idk, given what they do.

If there's a morality issue, that should be directed at the government.

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Post by nwrk » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 2:02 AM UTC

The title is false. There is no mention of facial recognition.