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Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries

I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view.

This perception is just based on my own company, in which I (an American) seem to be in a tiny minority compared to Indian H1-Bs.

Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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Anyone have a TLDR summary of the bill?

From the twitter posts, seems like it removes the per-nation cap on Green cards. Is there an overall cap on green cards across nations? In other words does the pain just get spread onto everyone or does it actually improve things?

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I don't understand how this would go through with unanimous consent. Diversity is the lifeblood of America. We don't want immigrants that are proportional to the rest of the world's population - we want the different ideas and ways of thinking from all over the world.

The other day, I was at a table with a white American, a Tunisian, an Omani, a Turk and an Indonesian, and it was some of the best conversation I've had in a while. All besides me (an immigrant) and the American were the children of immigrants.

Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view. This perception is just based on my own c…

The GC wait times for Indians are insane and it needs to be remedied, but the backers of the bill got a bit too overzealous.

I personally prefer a temporary lift on Quota 2-3 year time frame and capping per country to 49%.

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> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view. This perception is just based on my own c…

The Philippines, Mexico, and China hit their cap as well, so they would benefit as well.

Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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For both H.R.1044 and S.386, if they pass, people not born in India will wait for years before getting the green card. For example, currently, people born in China (note, it matters only where you born, not what citizenship you currently hold), would wait about 4 years to get green card (after they start the process), but once one of these bills passes, they would have to wait for 10 years to get it.

You would probably say they have a grace period, but unfortunately it only "protects" people born in the country that currently doesn't not exceed the per country limit. People from Philippines, China, etc will get the impact almost immediately. To make this really fair, we need to create extra quota for people born in India, not grabbing quota from other countries. (But I guess this will diminish the chance of this bill getting passed so they choose to hurt others, which from the perspective of people born in India, I totally understand, but I feel sad that I and other people not from India will get hurt inevitably once this bill passes).

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Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view. This perception is just based on my own c…

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Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view. This perception is just based on my own c…

>This perception is just based on my own company, in which I (an American) seem to be in a tiny minority compared to Indian H1-Bs.

The question is, which of these two seems better to you?

* Someone comes to the US, works 10 years on an H1-B, and then goes back to India afterwards.

* Someones comes to the US, works 10 years on an H1-B, get's a green card and stays in the US.

Re: Vote Today on Senate H-1B Bill

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> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view. This perception is just based on my own c…

1. The US issues approximately 1M greencards every year - employment based petitions are around 10% of that number 2. The bill does a gradual rollout of eliminating the cap - so most people who have already applied for a green card and are in the US should not be affected 3. Employment based green cards are allocated based on skills - there's a specific allocation of 50K green cards just for diversity every year. That's around 35% of the employment based allocation.
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