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What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?

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Re: What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?

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> before reverting to a perfectly capable parallel system of manual trim I don't have time to read the article in detail at the moment but suffice to say that this is subject to considerable debate.

Suffice also to say that, under heavy aerodynamic load, manual trim requires enough physical force to be the next thing to impossible.

Re: What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?

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post #5

This reads like yet another PR attempt by Boeing execs to shift the blame for the deaths away from their chronic mismanagement to pilot error.

Yep, just wanted to write more a les sthe same thing.

Sounds like another smear the pilots job paid for by Boeing in order to deflect blame from their abyssimal performance.

Re: What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?

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> before reverting to a perfectly capable parallel system of manual trim I don't have time to read the article in detail at the moment but suffice to say that this is subject to considerable debate.

Suffice also to say that, under heavy aerodynamic load, manual trim requires enough physical force to be the next thing to impossible.

Correct me if I am wrong, the pilot also need to be is specific position to have maximum leverage - ergo its not pilots its the plane that is the issue (or in that case Boeing's management).

Re: What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?

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post #5

This reads like yet another PR attempt by Boeing execs to shift the blame for the deaths away from their chronic mismanagement to pilot error.

I would actually still place this failure directly at Boeing's feet.

Games like the ones Boeing was trying to play (overhauling an entire aircraft without having to change type rating and retrain pilots) directly lead to situations like this. Yes, the FAA / NTSB should have been more effective, but regulatory capture like this is common. It's ultimately Boeing's job to manage the risk: losing 2 airframes in a matter of months because pilots weren't trained on the aircraft as a result of Boeing's mismanagement has done catastrophic damage to their reputation that will take decades to repair. They will now be under a microscope for everything they do, which means they can't use a lot of the less risky cost-cutting they were likely doing before.

The net result of Boeing's machinations to keep the 737-Max at the same type rating led directly to a situation where pilots were not sufficiently trained in the functionality of the aircraft. So I have zero sympathy for the view that Boeing is not entirely responsible for this situation.

Re: What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?

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Wow, such a long article in what probably could be condensed into 1 a4 sized page if you really are just about answering the question posed.

Who actually reads articles like this? I am genuinely curious. Comes off as information overload to me and it's hard to know what to believe.

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