Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#1

Post by not_smart » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:30 PM UTC

None of my comments on HN are visible to others. I have read the guidelines and I think I’m violating the “don’t post dumb comments” rule. I comment only on the things I’m interested in and usually I’m asking for clarifications of a post or a comment.

Is it assumed that I have to be a professional with regards to the topic? I am mostly self thought and I know I have huge gaps in my knowledge.

Wouldn’t it be helpful for the person asking and others in similar position to show the comment/question even if it is dumb by HN standards but shows genuine interest. Others could point out (in a civil manner) what is wrong with the comment and the commenter could grow less dumb.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#2

Post by pwg » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:39 PM UTC

Are your comments simply being downvoted? If so, then that is not "HN" doing it, but instead your audience (other HN users) reading your comment, deciding it not 'worthy' (for whatever definition of 'worthy' they use) and pressing the downvote button next to the comment.

Which would imply that the solution might (if downvotes are the issue) be to consider how the content of your comments might be viewed by others and then try to adjust your commenting style so as to not be downvoted by others.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#3

Post by rolph » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:40 PM UTC

up on the top banner, is a menu item [comments].

if you take a look there you will see what HN as a whole is talking about. you may get the flavour of HN and some idea what sort of comments, or submissions are valued here.

HINT submissions cant be downvoted, only flagged if they are in violation of rules. comments can be downvoted by those who have the downvote, so make submissions and find out what is good reading for the HN prolitariat.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#4

Post by not_smart » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:45 PM UTC

pwg wrote: post #2

Are your comments simply being downvoted? If so, then that is not "HN" doing it, but instead your audience (other HN users) reading your comment, deciding it not 'worthy' (for whatever definition of 'worthy' they use) and pressing the downvote button next to the comment. Which would imply that the solution might (if downvotes are the issue) be to consider how the content of your comments might be viewed by others and…

Some of them are downvoted and that is fine. The problem is that most of my comments (lately almost all of them) are not visible at all.

Could it be that I am classified as “dumb” by some automated spam protection?

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#5

Post by jimmyvalmer » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:52 PM UTC

Too dumb for HN is an unachievable level of dumb. Many still try.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#6

Post by rolph » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:52 PM UTC

not_smart wrote: post #4

pwg wrote: post #2

Are your comments simply being downvoted? If so, then that is not "HN" doing it, but instead your audience (other HN users) reading your comment, deciding it not 'worthy' (for whatever definition of 'worthy' they use) and pressing the downvote button next to the comment. Which would imply that the solution might (if downvotes are the issue) be to consider how the content of your comments might be viewed by others and…

Some of them are downvoted and that is fine. The problem is that most of my comments (lately almost all of them) are not visible at all. Could it be that I am classified as “dumb” by some automated spam protection?

"you" are not classified as dumb, there is a demotion of content that is not being consumed, until it goes stale and falls off the "end".

also comments that are downvoted heavily enough are greyed then removed from view.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#7

Post by not_smart » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 6:54 PM UTC

rolph wrote: post #3

up on the top banner, is a menu item [comments]. if you take a look there you will see what HN as a whole is talking about. you may get the flavour of HN and some idea what sort of comments, or submissions are valued here. HINT submissions cant be downvoted, only flagged if they are in violation of rules. comments can be downvoted by those who have the downvote, so make submissions and find out what is good reading f…

Thanks for the hint. I was not aware of it.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#8

Post by rolph » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 7:03 PM UTC

not_smart wrote: post #7

rolph wrote: post #3

up on the top banner, is a menu item [comments]. if you take a look there you will see what HN as a whole is talking about. you may get the flavour of HN and some idea what sort of comments, or submissions are valued here. HINT submissions cant be downvoted, only flagged if they are in violation of rules. comments can be downvoted by those who have the downvote, so make submissions and find out what is good reading f…

Thanks for the hint. I was not aware of it.

keep in mind that submissions will also roll off the edge of the HNworld if they are going stale [unread].

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#9

Post by not_smart » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 7:12 PM UTC

rolph wrote: post #6

not_smart wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of them are downvoted and that is fine. The problem is that most of my comments (lately almost all of them) are not visible at all. Could it be that I am classified as “dumb” by some automated spam protection?

"you" are not classified as dumb, there is a demotion of content that is not being consumed, until it goes stale and falls off the "end". also comments that are downvoted heavily enough are greyed then removed from view.

I do not think that is the case. The last time I commented I logged out immediately after posting it, and when I am logged out, the comment is not visible. I see it when I’m logged in.

Re: Ask HN: Am I too dumb for HN

#10

Post by rolph » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 7:17 PM UTC

not_smart wrote: post #9

rolph wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"you" are not classified as dumb, there is a demotion of content that is not being consumed, until it goes stale and falls off the "end". also comments that are downvoted heavily enough are greyed then removed from view.

I do not think that is the case. The last time I commented I logged out immediately after posting it, and when I am logged out, the comment is not visible. I see it when I’m logged in.

that is a "shadow" i dont know why anybody thinks its a good thing, but what happens is you see your posts and comments, but no one else does, so you think everything is fine, instead of abandoning the username and making another.

Ive wondered just how much storage space is "wasted" by perpetuating the illusion of participation when you are actually talking to thin air.