Last German kaiser's heirs fight for riches lost behind Iron Curtain
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#2>>Many critics have expressed anger that the Hohenzollerns are now trying to get these treasures back, depleting public collections.
well, it's theirs after all.
Re: Last German kaiser's heirs fight for riches lost behind Iron Curtain
#3>> Many critics have expressed anger that the Hohenzollerns are now trying to get these treasures back, depleting public collections. well, it's theirs after all.
By the same logic it was taken from them by right of conquest, as their ancestors did to others.
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#4>> Many critics have expressed anger that the Hohenzollerns are now trying to get these treasures back, depleting public collections. well, it's theirs after all.
It is not theirs and never was. There is no such thing as a “legitimate king.”
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#5>> Many critics have expressed anger that the Hohenzollerns are now trying to get these treasures back, depleting public collections. well, it's theirs after all.
By the same logic it was taken from them by right of conquest, as their ancestors did to others.
At some point the state recognizes property, even if it was seized or granted, say, 450 years ago. After that you cannot take it without compensation.
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#6> Under a 1994 law, people whose property was expropriated by the Soviet Union have a right to claim compensation -- but only if they did not "lend considerable support" to the Nazi regime.
> In a newspaper in 1932, the crown prince called for people to vote for Adolf Hitler in the presidential election, he added.
Seems rather straightforward to me.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
By the same logic it was taken from them by right of conquest, as their ancestors did to others.
At some point the state recognizes property, even if it was seized or granted, say, 450 years ago. After that you cannot take it without compensation.
What about the British crown jewels which originated form India?
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#8> Under a 1994 law, people whose property was expropriated by the Soviet Union have a right to claim compensation -- but only if they did not "lend considerable support" to the Nazi regime. > In a newspaper in 1932, the crown prince called for people to vote for Adolf Hitler in the presidential election, he added. Seems rather straightforward to me.
That doesn't seem quite so straightforward actually. The Nazi regime wasn't a thing yet, as the Nazis had yet to seize power. How obvious was it at the time to Germans that the Nazis would turn out to be so horrible?
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#9>> Many critics have expressed anger that the Hohenzollerns are now trying to get these treasures back, depleting public collections. well, it's theirs after all.
It is not theirs and never was. There is no such thing as a “legitimate king.”
And I'd argue that historically, the nobility were stewards of the state. Since they no longer fulfill that function, the property should remain with the state.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
By the same logic it was taken from them by right of conquest, as their ancestors did to others.
At some point the state recognizes property, even if it was seized or granted, say, 450 years ago. After that you cannot take it without compensation.
It's one of the basic principles of most ownership law that after a certain time if you don't complain about people violating your rights as an owner for long enough, you lose them. This is the case for trademarks for example, or for real estate in many places (New York is an example). These concepts of usucaption/adverse possession go back to roman ages.