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The Crash of United Flight 232 (2017)

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Re: The Crash of United Flight 232 (2017)

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Al Haynes passed away last week:

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/26/754458583/al-haynes-pilot-fro...

This talk by him is well worth reading:

http://clear-prop.org/aviation/haynes.html

(The talk used to be available on YouTube, but was removed sometime in the last year by copyright claim. I can't find an alternate source for it. The video was at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYHMMMeHic)

Denny Fitch passed away in 2012:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/05/10/152402632...

Fitch was interviewed by Errol Morris in an episode of "First Person" called "Leaving the Earth." It's still on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vdkTz0zqI

Wikipedia page on the crash:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

Re: The Crash of United Flight 232 (2017)

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post #3

Al Haynes passed away last week: https://www.npr.org/2019/08/26/754458583/al-haynes-pilot-fro... This talk by him is well worth reading: http://clear-prop.org/aviation/haynes.html (The talk used to be available on YouTube, but was removed sometime in the last year by copyright claim. I can't find an alternate source for it. The video was at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYHMMMeHic ) Denny Fitch passed away in 2012…

also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=099cHWSbAL8 (was on hn a few weeks ago)

Re: The Crash of United Flight 232 (2017)

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I heard Al Haynes speak in a small group setting regarding this incident when I was in aviation college. The amount of composure they had to maintain to even get this aircraft near an airport was unbelievable.

Between the four pilots they had nearly 90,000 hours of flight time. Haynes had 30,000, of which ~7,200 where on type. Records had 20,000, Dvorak 15,000 and Fitch had 23,000. Fitch had amazingly practiced flying in a simulator with throttles-only after hearing about JAL 123.

If any crew was going to land this plane, it was this one.

Re: The Crash of United Flight 232 (2017)

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I wonder if the same McDonnell Douglas corporate culture behind the flawed DC 10 is what led to the MAX? It's often said Boeing's acquisition of Douglas was more of a reverse takeover.

On a side note, I once met an aircraft investigator who called it the Death Cruiser 10, and that it put his kids through college!

Re: The Crash of United Flight 232 (2017)

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With all the attention given to the 737 MAX lately, it's easy to forget that airline travel is dramatically safer today than it was just 30 years ago when this incident took place.

Fatalities per revenue passenger-mile have decreased by a factor of 15x from 1989 to 2018 (and 54x from 1970 to 2018) [1].

[1] https://theblogbyjavier.com/2019/01/02/aviation-safety-evolu...

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