EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
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Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#2Could this be the next MiniTel in the making?
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#3Do EU governments not have something like FedRamp? I work on a popular SaaS product for enterprises. At my last job I supported a managed service provider who was going after some federal IT outsourcing business.
AWS has FedRamp instances in DCs no one else uses. Same with the SaaS system I work on. They had all kinds of restrictions including only allowing US Citizens to access the systems.
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#4Could this be the next MiniTel in the making?
Minitel was based on another protocol. Nextcloud reuses current technology and provides open source interfaces.
So, the difference between the internet and the minitel is nothing like the difference between Nextcloud and American alternatives (Dropbox & Co).
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#5Could this be the next MiniTel in the making?
Minitel was based on another protocol. Nextcloud reuses current technology and provides open source interfaces. So, the difference between the internet and the minitel is nothing like the difference between Nextcloud and American alternatives (Dropbox & Co).
> Minitel was based on another protocol.
everything was 'based on another protocol' before x25 :D
i think that just like Minitel was one of many services that used the banal packet switching tech at the time, nextcloud is just another banal cloud offering. What is interesting is what will happen soon: truly distributed networks will be for [aws/nextcloud/etc] what the internet was for [minitel/dec/telenet/bbs] users.
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#6France/Netherlands/Sweden/Germany is an interesting mix.
(Edit: removed incorrect information.)
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#7The recent changes to Dropbox incited me to finally build a home NAS/personal-cloud server based on Nextcloud last month.
My first impressions were a bit negative, as I was expecting "open source Dropbox" and nothing more; Nextcloud actually does quite a lot, which made me think it was bloatware. This is due to my ignorance and jumping in too fast.
What Nextcloud actually is: a personal Dropbox-style server, with open source equivalents of Google Docs, calendaring, contacts, notepads, and a complete "app store". It's all really well built, and you can use as much (or in my case, as little) as you feel like. I thought I'd use none of these apps at all, until I realized that I would really like a Del.icio.us-style [bookmarking app](https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/bookmarks), but had no desire to shop around and adopt something that required a fee or might disappear later.
At this point, my only criticisms are that I think the installation should be more idiot-friendly, and the UI smells of 2012.
For anyone interested in following suit, I picked up an [Odroid-HC1](https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc1-home-cloud-one/) (a bit like a Raspberry Pi, but much higher disk and network performance, at a similar price point) and [NextcloudPi](https://ownyourbits.com/nextcloudpi/#download) (complete Debian + Nextcloud image). It went swimmingly and cost well under a hundred bucks, not counting the 3.5" hard drive.
Nextcloud is backed by a corporation that mostly makes its money off support for the German gov't? I think it's an ideal solution for any municipality, non-profit, or small-to-large sized company that for whatever reason doesn't want to go with a commercial cloud.
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#8Do EU governments not have something like FedRamp? I work on a popular SaaS product for enterprises. At my last job I supported a managed service provider who was going after some federal IT outsourcing business. AWS has FedRamp instances in DCs no one else uses. Same with the SaaS system I work on. They had all kinds of restrictions including only allowing US Citizens to access the systems.
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Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#9France/Netherlands/Sweden/Germany is an interesting mix. (Edit: removed incorrect information.)
It's not an EU project, it's individual governments making long-term infrastructure decisions. Just like the French gov chose matrix for internal communication. Sadly there has been no national move to Linux as desktop OS for staff yet, but quite a few lower level initiatives. Those lower level ones obviously have less resources and more fluctuation, but shifting 300k federal employees to a new storage provider will not be a frequent decision.
Re: EU governments choose independence from US cloud providers with Nextcloud
#10France/Netherlands/Sweden/Germany is an interesting mix. (Edit: removed incorrect information.)
NextCloud was an independent company well before it did anything government related.
The only thing that's happening here is they appear to have struck a huge contract with a few EU countries to build internal clouds.
I believe NextCloud is open source, and a fork of owncloud from the original owncloud developer who wasn't happy with the direction it was taking, or something like that. Also, they are a profitable company, and the product is open source, so this only looks like a boost to their business model and the open source product it's based on.