How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)
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How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)
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#2This is very true. I've worked for several employers like this. Usually it's better to quit but sometimes it's still worth staying because some jobs can open up more opportunities. In these situations, the best you can do is build leverage by creating direct relationships with stakeholders (e.g. clients and investors).
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#3Joshua Fluke just released this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nyHRcI5Fto
Which I thought was pretty funny and straight down this alley.
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#4Additionally when they treat managers as other engineers - meaning that they want to discuss changes or improvements without judging others for their ideas - just decide for them and announce your decision to show who is in charge.
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#5> Brainwash them regularly by communicating how great your company is, how big its mission is, and how important their contribution is.
A few year ago a friend was working as a consultant for Disneyland mentioned about how little Disneyland would pay its lowest rung employees who kept the place running. Instead the workers were fed corporate bullshit about how lucky they were to work at the "happiest place in the world."
Perhaps being educated or skilled does not reduce one's susceptibility to psychological manipulation.
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#6> Brainwash them regularly by communicating how great your company is, how big its mission is, and how important their contribution is. A few year ago a friend was working as a consultant for Disneyland mentioned about how little Disneyland would pay its lowest rung employees who kept the place running. Instead the workers were fed corporate bullshit about how lucky they were to work at the "happiest place in the wor…
It does not work on people who are not intellectually challenged (that is, take a moment to think - many low rung people cannot afford one) if the culture does not value this kind of conformity.
(Such as not Asia.)
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#7Additionally when they treat managers as other engineers - meaning that they want to discuss changes or improvements without judging others for their ideas - just decide for them and announce your decision to show who is in charge.
Yes, because people do not resent you for making bad decisions for bad reasons. /s
This only works if you make decent decisions.
People resenting you is the first step to quitting. It is said that people quit bad bosses, not the job.
Every manager would want that to be true, but it often isn't. They lack expert knowledge. Or they cannot actually make decisions that actually matter themselves, or sometimes they have unrealistic expectations.
(Sometimes of narcissistic kind, like if the influence they give will make unworkable things suddenly work out.)
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#8Previous discussion (2016):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13120114
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#9Don't forget free lunches. $10 bucks for an extra hour of productivity.
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#10This is very true. I've worked for several employers like this. Usually it's better to quit but sometimes it's still worth staying because some jobs can open up more opportunities. In these situations, the best you can do is build leverage by creating direct relationships with stakeholders (e.g. clients and investors).
Ah, you missed the point of mushroom management - keep them in the dark and feed them sh*t. Definitely do not allow programmers to meet the stakeholders.