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Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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Re: Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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Now I am curious, who runs production customer facing apps on Azure? I'm assuming many people do given that Azure is second after AWS in market share or is that really just mostly corporate IT servers?

When folks say Azure is just behind AWS what does that mean? I don't see nearly that many Azure large scale workloads or is something else counting as Azure I'm not aware of?

Re: Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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All Windows servers on Azure already have to have "Software assurance". The license T&C for the last few years have been fairly clear you need to pay for software assurance to cloud host.

Are they not simply closing the loophole where direct customers are paying more?

Re: Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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Well this article doesn't seem very good. Not least because the author seems perfectly willing to not actually explain the detail, and then jump to conclusions.

Having read the actual detailed article what seems to be happening is that some customers buy "on-premises licenses" without mobility rights, and MSFT used to let them use those licenses on outsourced hardware. But people were using those licenses to just put their deployments on general cloud services- which is not what the license was intended for. The license was intended for fixed, outsourced bare metal hardware.

Basically, MSFT is just catching up to the fact cloud services exist and you're going to need a specific license if you want to run the software on the cloud. Now, apparently this author finds this surprising, but given that the license he's complaining about is an "on premises" license it sounds more like MSFT were being generous by letting customers use the licenses on outsourced hardware, and never intended it to be carte blanche for running your "on premises" license in the cloud - which is very obviously not on your premises.

What it sounds like is happening at the moment is Amazon is running a shit tonne of MSFT software without any MSFT licenses. Which sounds pretty cheeky to me.

Re: Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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Now I am curious, who runs production customer facing apps on Azure? I'm assuming many people do given that Azure is second after AWS in market share or is that really just mostly corporate IT servers?

we recently adopted a 'far in the upper right hand quadrant' SaaS platform, and learned _after_ we signed that they were 99%+ Azure. And many of the other platforms we auditioned were on Azure as well. I think it's pretty common in the enterprise.

Re: Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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It's pretty hard to get upset about this since nobody actually runs Windows Server on the Cloud anyway. Even Azure is dominated by Linux server usage.

Plenty of companies use Azure and MS all the way, media/marketing people think Linux is nerdy and too hard and those nice folks from MS came by and bought them lunch last week, would be rude not to go with them...

Re: Microsoft Screws Azure Customers and Its Own Advocates Alike

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Now I am curious, who runs production customer facing apps on Azure? I'm assuming many people do given that Azure is second after AWS in market share or is that really just mostly corporate IT servers?

When folks say Azure is just behind AWS what does that mean? I don't see nearly that many Azure large scale workloads or is something else counting as Azure I'm not aware of?

well just behind is very generous considering Azure's market share is around 12% and AWS is like 50%

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2019/08/02/amazon-...

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