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Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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This is just one of the many incidents of police brutality that happened in the latest protest in Hong Kong. All the cases quoted below (and many more) happened just yesterday. Baton beating, framing protesters, firing tear gases in residential areas have been a "norm" to HK police and have happened every time there was a protest, so 2-3 times a week on average in almost every district in HK. They are not quoted. Numerous similar brutalities have happened throughout the protests in the past 2 months.

Some other cases are: 1. Police ground a protester's face on the ground, breaking his teeth and injuring his face: https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/12/video-hong-kong-police...

2. Police shot "bean bag bullets" at a protester's eye, rupturing her right eye and caused permanent blindness: https://news.now.com/home/hot/player?newsId=358763&hot=1

3. Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets into MTR (subway) station at normal operating hours: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3022348...

4. Police disguised as protesters to incite to riot and capture real protesters: (Same link as (1))

5. While they were insistent and brutal in arresting protesters, HK police assisted and protected triads AGAIN as they attack civilians: https://www.facebook.com/standnewshk/videos/1256615241186946...

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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The title is incorrect, they were not firing rubber bullets but rather they were using compressed gas pepperball markers.

This reminds me of my young son recently. He was standing beside his friend who was playing a tennis game with the Apple TV remote. The remote had come flying out of her hand on a full swing, and cracked the TV screen.

  "Did you throw it?"
  "No! Tilly did!"
  "Did you bump her when she was swinging?"
  "No!"
  "Did you touch her at all?"
  "No!" (he's holding a tiny 80s troll figurine in his hand)
  "Did the troll toy touch her while you were holding it?"
  "Yes..."

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

#5
Maybe if the protestors werent so intent on disrupting everyday life and kept things peaceful in the first place the police wouldn't have to clear them out using such means. These protests are a serious nuisance and everyone is paying the consequences for the protestors actions

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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post #5

Maybe if the protestors werent so intent on disrupting everyday life and kept things peaceful in the first place the police wouldn't have to clear them out using such means. These protests are a serious nuisance and everyone is paying the consequences for the protestors actions

Are you seriously defending the police here? This is way beyond the reaction you'd see in pretty much any western democratic country.

Protests (again, in western democratic countries) can be peaceful, and typically are peaceful provided the police don't escalate things.

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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post #5

Maybe if the protestors werent so intent on disrupting everyday life and kept things peaceful in the first place the police wouldn't have to clear them out using such means. These protests are a serious nuisance and everyone is paying the consequences for the protestors actions

Yes, everyone should be good little sheep and do what Big Brother says.

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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post #4

The title is incorrect, they were not firing rubber bullets but rather they were using compressed gas pepperball markers.

This reminds me of my young son recently. He was standing beside his friend who was playing a tennis game with the Apple TV remote. The remote had come flying out of her hand on a full swing, and cracked the TV screen. "Did you throw it?" "No! Tilly did!" "Did you bump her when she was swinging?" "No!" "Did you touch her at all?" "No!" (he's holding a tiny 80s troll figurine in his hand) "Did the troll toy touch her…

My kids are letter of the law literal too. It's hard not to smile at the wrong time.

This reminds me of mobile robots I do cartography and "city planning" for. You can draw all kinds of complicated road networks of one-ways and no-gos and speed limits but the robot will still find that little sliver between two polys and barrel down it at full speed going the wrong way.

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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post #5

Maybe if the protestors werent so intent on disrupting everyday life and kept things peaceful in the first place the police wouldn't have to clear them out using such means. These protests are a serious nuisance and everyone is paying the consequences for the protestors actions

Are you seriously defending the police here? This is way beyond the reaction you'd see in pretty much any western democratic country. Protests (again, in western democratic countries) can be peaceful, and typically are peaceful provided the police don't escalate things.

No I don't agree with the police beating the protestors here but neither do I agree with protestors throwing bricks at police and setting off petrol bombs or breaking off a policeman finger. You can't exactly expect them to be sitting ducks, it's a natural reaction so stop complaining and making a fuss, it's what your gonna get right or wrong. I for one would like to be able to spend my weeknights outside without the fear of getting hurt. And also for Hong Kong not to be some sort of safe harbour for criminals but that's probably going to just set off more fireworks so I'll just be happy with peace on the streets again

Re: HK police fires rubber bullet at protesters and civilians at point blank range

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post #2

This is just one of the many incidents of police brutality that happened in the latest protest in Hong Kong. All the cases quoted below (and many more) happened just yesterday. Baton beating, framing protesters, firing tear gases in residential areas have been a "norm" to HK police and have happened every time there was a protest, so 2-3 times a week on average in almost every district in HK. They are not quoted. Num…

There's no mention of permanent blindness in your 2nd link.

And what's wrong with firing tear gas and rubber bullets during "normal operating hours"? There was probably no legitimate non-protesting traveller in the Kwai Fong MTR station anymore. I don't think you can ever be 100% sure that there are no innocent by-standers in the crowd. So what is the police supposed to do? Never use force against protesters?

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