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Let’s End the Myth that Ideas Are Worthless

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Re: Let’s End the Myth that Ideas Are Worthless

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I tend to be someone who would emphasize the importance of execution relative to the importance of ideas, however I certainly don't believe that ideas don't matter.

Ideas have value to the extent that they are coupled with excellent execution. One without the other is worthless but combined they have value. Because of this interaction simplistic statements such as "ideas are valuable" or "ideas are worthless" are both incorrect.

The same situation even applies to something more concrete than a simple idea - code. I may have developed a high-quality code base with extensive functionality. However that code has little if any value in and of itself, unless I can apply it to solving a problem that people actually have and are willing to pay for.

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I really do love the idea guy, they rail and rail "hey I am worth something" but the fact remains they are worth very little. Lets say for example I decided to start a company, I have a good group of guys that can do anything and we have capital. We don't need an idea to form a company, we could start a fabrication shop or a coin laundry and potentially profit just as much as venturing off and building a new and novel widget. It's the execution, there is nothing sexy about fabrication but the world needs it and companies start every day that provide fabrication services. The guy that says hey lets start a fabrication shop is worth very little to that equation even if he has an idea about how to revolutionize how fabrication is done. Somehow when it comes to software this fact get's muddled, people think because software is complex that somehow the ideas for software are worth more when in reality the idea guy is not bringing much more to the table than "hey lets start a fab shop". Every so often we have a series of post challenging this conventional wisdom, but I have yet to see an effective argument for the idea guy being worth much to the total equation.

Re: Let’s End the Myth that Ideas Are Worthless

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It's very interesting to note the backgrounds of the various people involved in this debate.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanielwhittemore would lead me to believe Nathaniel is not a "code"/execution person (I could be wrong, obviously).

Whereas the people on the other side of the debate seem to be largely execution guys - coders or self-styled "product" guys (YCombinator, Eric Ries).

It's almost a tautology - the execution guys say the execution is most important, the idea guys think it's all about the idea.

Like most things, the "best" answer probably lies somewhere between the two extremes.

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I really do love the idea guy, they rail and rail "hey I am worth something" but the fact remains they are worth very little. Lets say for example I decided to start a company, I have a good group of guys that can do anything and we have capital. We don't need an idea to form a company, we could start a fabrication shop or a coin laundry and potentially profit just as much as venturing off and building a new and nove…

I think the answer is in the middle - however, I ask you;

Are you a coder? Where is your billion dollar application then? If one is so capable of building something, why haven't you built XYZ and sold it for many millions already?

If developers are so much more valuable than ideas - why isnt every single developer building something amazing?

Why is there so much crappy software, so many crappy businesses? -- I bet you'd say "well, it was a bad idea!" -- but if there is some amazingly successful company - you would say "Well, clearly that is amazing execution"

The fact is, rather, that idea folk need devs - and devs need idea folk.

I am a technical person, I design large systems and networks - but am not a developer. I am an idea guy to my developer friends - and we are always bouncing ideas back and forth.

To further your example - you are saying the architect who makes the drawings are worthless and its the contractor who pounds the nail that is the real builder.

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I really do love the idea guy, they rail and rail "hey I am worth something" but the fact remains they are worth very little. Lets say for example I decided to start a company, I have a good group of guys that can do anything and we have capital. We don't need an idea to form a company, we could start a fabrication shop or a coin laundry and potentially profit just as much as venturing off and building a new and nove…

I think the answer is in the middle - however, I ask you; Are you a coder? Where is your billion dollar application then? If one is so capable of building something, why haven't you built XYZ and sold it for many millions already? If developers are so much more valuable than ideas - why isnt every single developer building something amazing? Why is there so much crappy software, so many crappy businesses? -- I bet yo…

> If developers are so much more valuable than ideas - why isnt every single developer building something amazing?

I think a lot of this boils down to opportunity and guts. While everyone can have a billion-dollar idea, and many of them could execute parts of it (the coding, or the marketing, or whatever).

It takes a special set of circumstances and personality traits to actually make a billion-dollar idea into a billion-dollar business.

This is easily demonstrated by the startup community itself. How many homeruns are there? How many flops?

;)

Re: Let’s End the Myth that Ideas Are Worthless

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Can we end the myth that using superlatives somehow adds credence to a contrarian standpoint? I can't speak for anybody else, but if I see an article titled "Ideas are Worthless", I just won't read it. That said:

Use discretion, crunch the numbers, make educated decisions, and let the competition rely on silly absolutist platitudes.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the answer is in the middle - however, I ask you; Are you a coder? Where is your billion dollar application then? If one is so capable of building something, why haven't you built XYZ and sold it for many millions already? If developers are so much more valuable than ideas - why isnt every single developer building something amazing? Why is there so much crappy software, so many crappy businesses? -- I bet yo…

> If developers are so much more valuable than ideas - why isnt every single developer building something amazing? I think a lot of this boils down to opportunity and guts. While everyone can have a billion-dollar idea, and many of them could execute parts of it (the coding, or the marketing, or whatever). It takes a special set of circumstances and personality traits to actually make a billion-dollar idea into a bil…

> While everyone can have a billion-dollar idea

You know, this is one of those cliches that lives on simply because everyone keeps repeating it. Everyone can have an idea they believe is worth billions of dollars, true. And a billion dollar idea is worthless without billion dollar execution. But don't let this fool you into believing that great ideas are any less rare.

And besides that, my experience is that great ideas drive great execution. I mean, I personally find it harder to execute an idea I don't like than one I love. And I hardly believe that I'm unique.

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I really do love the idea guy, they rail and rail "hey I am worth something" but the fact remains they are worth very little. Lets say for example I decided to start a company, I have a good group of guys that can do anything and we have capital. We don't need an idea to form a company, we could start a fabrication shop or a coin laundry and potentially profit just as much as venturing off and building a new and nove…

I think the answer is in the middle - however, I ask you; Are you a coder? Where is your billion dollar application then? If one is so capable of building something, why haven't you built XYZ and sold it for many millions already? If developers are so much more valuable than ideas - why isnt every single developer building something amazing? Why is there so much crappy software, so many crappy businesses? -- I bet yo…

If one is so capable of building something, why haven't you built XYZ and sold it for many millions already?

Because simply building something doesn't equal success. Other factors are involved, such as potential need for capital, marketing etc.

I would not say ideas are worth zero -- at least not without qualifying/explaining that statement. [1] I believe it's more accurate to say ideas are worth very little -- usually much less than the idea's creator thinks it is -- relative to everything else needed for project success. And many ideas do get built out into existence, and flop, where we see that generally 90% of startups fail.

The confusion as I see it with this debate is "idea people" having the misconception that a great idea equals success, and only needs the product to be built. That's usually not the case. And the problem here is that there is zero risk in having an idea, but elevated risk in every other part of growing a potential business.

As to the importance of execution, well, you can have an average or sub-par project executed extremely well be very valuable and profitable, but an idea without any execution will always be worth zero no matter how great its potential.

I do believe ideas can have value. Highly valuable ideas are ones that are novel and provide great advantage upon execution in the marketplace. These are generally rare. I can only think of a couple in the tech space over the past decade: the page ranking model of Google, and the video sharing model of YouTube.

[1] An idea is worth zero in the dollar value sense because if the idea never leaves the brain of the creator to be introduced into the world it never introduces any value into the world, and remains only an idea.

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