Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
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Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
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Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#2Steamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why?
Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#3> In 1995, with the release date of Toy Story nearing, Katzenberg visited with his old friend John Lasseter and asked him what Pixar's next project would be. Lasseter told Katzenberg about a film surrounding a group of insects and the world they inhabit. This film would eventually become A Bug's Life.
> Later that year, Katzenberg and Dreamworks announced that it would be releasing Antz, the studio's first 3D animated film about... a group of insects and the world they inhabit.
I always suspected that there was something going on between those movies. There it is.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#4Steamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why? Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mickey-mouse-racial-carica...
While I agree with your sentiment, I don’t know about this case.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#5Steamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why? Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mickey-mouse-racial-carica... While I agree with your sentiment, I don’t know about this case.
You should read the article you linked, since it supports the idea.
The only bit it debunks is the specific image cited, which is in turn a modern comment on the pre-existing links.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mickey-mouse-racial-carica... While I agree with your sentiment, I don’t know about this case.
You should read the article you linked, since it supports the idea. The only bit it debunks is the specific image cited, which is in turn a modern comment on the pre-existing links.
Ahh you’re right, that’s what I get for skimming.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#7Steamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why? Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
Cram a fat dick in your face and shut the fuck up, you fucking menstruating vulva.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#8Steamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why? Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
Cherry-picking the most provocative bit from an article and hauling it in here for ignition is not using HN as intended. It's particularly damaging to do that when there isn't any discussion yet, because threads are sensitive to initial conditions. Would you please review the site guidelines and take the spirit of this place more to heart? They include: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
The high-order bit on HN is: what kind of discussion is anything likely to lead to? Are we going to get a curious conversation about (in this case) animation? Or yet another bitter battle about (in this case) race? HN is for the former, not the latter—we're interested in things that haven't been repeated countless times already. All scorched earth is the same.
Edit: Unfortunately it looks like it looks like you've been posting this sort of ideological battle-bait quite a bit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20451846, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20429974. And we've had to warn you before. If you can't or don't want to use HN as intended, we're going to have ban you. I don't want to do that, so please fix this.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#9Steamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why? Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
Cherry-picking the most provocative bit from an article and hauling it in here for ignition is not using HN as intended. It's particularly damaging to do that when there isn't any discussion yet, because threads are sensitive to initial conditions. Would you please review the site guidelines and take the spirit of this place more to heart? They include: " Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you h…
If you want to normalize hate, I can't stop you but I certainly won't stop being critical of racist shit I see posted here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I will try to play it more safe in the future.
Also the novelty of my comment was the connection to minstrel cartoons which is adjacent to the topic of animation. Not many people know this. It's not like I am just making random shit up.
Re: Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cherry-picking the most provocative bit from an article and hauling it in here for ignition is not using HN as intended. It's particularly damaging to do that when there isn't any discussion yet, because threads are sensitive to initial conditions. Would you please review the site guidelines and take the spirit of this place more to heart? They include: " Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you h…
If you want to normalize hate, I can't stop you but I certainly won't stop being critical of racist shit I see posted here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I will try to play it more safe in the future. Also the novelty of my comment was the connection to minstrel cartoons which is adjacent to the topic of animation. Not many people know this. It's not like I am just making random shit up.
I don't want to normalize hate.
If you know something about animation that other people don't know, that's great and of course you should share it. But how you go about it matters. If you share it in a bomb-throwing way that's guaranteed to start a flamewar, any curiosity in your comment will be the first thing to vaporize. Curiosity always is.