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The Importance of Insect Suffering

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Re: The Importance of Insect Suffering

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I can't help but feel that without also adding a right to life for insects or similar this swiftly leads to the conclusion that we should pave over the rainforests to minimize long-term suffering.

Re: The Importance of Insect Suffering

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post #2

Oh come one. We'll sooner have AIs that will wonder if humans can truly suffer, than we will be able to determine if insects suffer.

Perhaps those AIs will help us get incrementally closer to finding out about insect suffering; in the meantime, we have to act under uncertainty.

Re: The Importance of Insect Suffering

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post #2

Oh come one. We'll sooner have AIs that will wonder if humans can truly suffer, than we will be able to determine if insects suffer.

Proving subjective experiences is pretty tricky indeed. If I were to poke you with a needle, I'd assume your vocalisations and gesticulations meant you experienced suffering, because your behaviours map to what I would do, myself, were I suffering from a needle poke. I can't prove that, however, any more than I can prove a fly suffers.

When it comes to humans, we generally don't worry about that lack of rigorous proof. But why does that generosity extend only to our own kind?

Re: The Importance of Insect Suffering

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post #3

I can't help but feel that without also adding a right to life for insects or similar this swiftly leads to the conclusion that we should pave over the rainforests to minimize long-term suffering.

Well, the good news on that front is we're already eliminating insects https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/10/plummeti...
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