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Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates on 2019‑07‑10

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Re: Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates on 2019‑07‑10

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This reads like the marketing/PR teams wrote much of it. Compare to the Cloudflare post-mortem from today: https://blog.cloudflare.com/details-of-the-cloudflare-outage...

Nobody from marketing writes this stuff, come on

Re: Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates on 2019‑07‑10

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This reads like the marketing/PR teams wrote much of it. Compare to the Cloudflare post-mortem from today: https://blog.cloudflare.com/details-of-the-cloudflare-outage...

Out of curiosity, how would you have preferred to see a shard unable to accept writes? I think in both post-mortems, you would see comparable graphs - usage and then a drop in usage. I think it's easier to document a failed regex versus "here's our cluster architecture that we've been using for 3 months".

Also, does your company's engineering decisions change based on other companies' post-mortems?

Re: Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates on 2019‑07‑10

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"We identified that our rolled-back election protocol interacted poorly with a recently-introduced configuration setting to trigger the second period of degradation."

Damn what a mess. Sounds like y'all are rolling out way to many changes too quickly with little to no time for integration testing.

It's a somewhat amateur move to assume you can just arbitrarily rollback without consequence, without testing etc.

One solution I don't see mentioned, don't upgrade to minor versions ever. And create a dependency matrix so if you do rollback, you rollback all the other things that depend on the thing you're rolling back as well.

Re: Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates on 2019‑07‑10

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This reads like the marketing/PR teams wrote much of it. Compare to the Cloudflare post-mortem from today: https://blog.cloudflare.com/details-of-the-cloudflare-outage...

I'm Stripe's CTO and wrote a good deal of the RCA (with the help of others, including a lot of the engineers who responded to the incident). If you've any specific feedback on how to make this more useful, I'd love to hear it.

Re: Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates on 2019‑07‑10

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post #9

This reads like the marketing/PR teams wrote much of it. Compare to the Cloudflare post-mortem from today: https://blog.cloudflare.com/details-of-the-cloudflare-outage...

I'm Stripe's CTO and wrote a good deal of the RCA (with the help of others, including a lot of the engineers who responded to the incident). If you've any specific feedback on how to make this more useful, I'd love to hear it.

I work at Stripe, on the marketing team, and assisted a bit here. My last major engineering work was writing the backend to a stock exchange.

If anyone on HN knows anyone who has the sort of interesting life story where they both know what can cause a cluster election to fail and like writing about that sort of thing, we would eagerly like to make their acquaintance.

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