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Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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I’m quite far from the ongoing Go community discussions, but this seems to be a perfect example?

> We’ve discusses this internally and decided...

As one commenter on the PR points out, they’ve discussed it internally, now it’s time to discuss as a community, but this issue has still been closed.

I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with Go and not involving the community, then they have to at least have these discussions. Even if they come to the table with strong opinions and good reasons, keeping up the appearance of community involvement like in this issue creates a culture of Go being community driven, and right now that culture is lacking.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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I’m quite far from the ongoing Go community discussions, but this seems to be a perfect example? > We’ve discusses this internally and decided... As one commenter on the PR points out, they’ve discussed it internally, now it’s time to discuss as a community, but this issue has still been closed. I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with…

> I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with Go and not involving the community, then they have to at least have these discussions.

Google hires many Go developers, hosts all the infrastructure, etc. They've been spending millions of dollars a year for the last decade or so on the project.

A small logo at the bottom of the website doesn't seem like much to ask for.

It's not even uncommon, but some people seem to see everything Google does as some plan for world domination shrug.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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I don't get it. Go is a google sponsored project. Nobody cries about .net core including Microsoft logos, or Java using Oracle's, kotlin with jetbrains, etc.

I honestly think it's better that the logo is prominently displayed, lest people forget who actually controls the language.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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I’m quite far from the ongoing Go community discussions, but this seems to be a perfect example? > We’ve discusses this internally and decided... As one commenter on the PR points out, they’ve discussed it internally, now it’s time to discuss as a community, but this issue has still been closed. I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with…

> I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with Go and not involving the community, then they have to at least have these discussions. Google hires many Go developers, hosts all the infrastructure, etc. They've been spending millions of dollars a year for the last decade or so on the project. A small logo at the bottom of the website doesn'…

> A small logo at the bottom of the website doesn't seem like much to ask for.

As I said, I have on real opinion on this particular request. It's the culture that their response creates that is of concern to me.

A better response may have been:

"Thanks for the issue. We spent a long time talking about it and are sensitive to this concern, however it would be great to get more of an understanding of how the community feels about this. Let's leave this issue open as a place for discussion for a few weeks and revisit this once we've collected some more thoughts from the community"

Edit: this culture is not a right of the community, but it is a requirement for Google to legitimately call this "community driven". Again, not specific to this particular discussion.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with Go and not involving the community, then they have to at least have these discussions. Google hires many Go developers, hosts all the infrastructure, etc. They've been spending millions of dollars a year for the last decade or so on the project. A small logo at the bottom of the website doesn'…

> A small logo at the bottom of the website doesn't seem like much to ask for. As I said, I have on real opinion on this particular request. It's the culture that their response creates that is of concern to me. A better response may have been: "Thanks for the issue. We spent a long time talking about it and are sensitive to this concern, however it would be great to get more of an understanding of how the community…

Is "the community" also going to foot the multi-million dollar bill? Or does "the community" simple expect Google to give free money asking nothing in return?

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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post #5

I don't get it. Go is a google sponsored project. Nobody cries about .net core including Microsoft logos, or Java using Oracle's, kotlin with jetbrains, etc. I honestly think it's better that the logo is prominently displayed, lest people forget who actually controls the language.

If it’s not branded as a google product that sure reduces the perceived risk of it being cancelled out of the blue one day.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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I’m quite far from the ongoing Go community discussions, but this seems to be a perfect example? > We’ve discusses this internally and decided... As one commenter on the PR points out, they’ve discussed it internally, now it’s time to discuss as a community, but this issue has still been closed. I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with…

Almost every sponsored project has internal discussions. Many sync from the internal source control to GitHub.

Is it really realistic to make every chat with a colleague into a formal, public RFC?

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