A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by GutenYe » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 3:32 AM UTC

A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio
deno.land

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by tfolbrecht » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:22 AM UTC

For the inevitably "what differentiates this from node?"

Single executable Allows imports from url File system & network Sandboxing is controlled with flags Dies on uncaught errors

https://deno.land/manual.html#introduction

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by xtreak29 » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:29 AM UTC

Ryan Dahl, creator of node.js started this project and is also a lead contributor.

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by anaphor » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:33 AM UTC

What makes this different from something like https://github.com/Agoric/SES ?

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by xvilka » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:40 AM UTC

Would be nice also to have the V8 implementation in Rust as well.

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by dlbucci » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:42 AM UTC

Is this a new site, or did the project recently reach a milestone, or is this just resurfacing?

I'm really excited about this project, especially the first-class TypeScript. Could easily see it replacing node for me!

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by lajawfe » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:51 AM UTC

Watch 10 things I regret about node. js - https://youtu.be/M3BM9TB-8yA from the creator of both node and deno to undersatnd his motivations behind the deno project. A very intriguing talk.

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Post by kevinkassimo » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 5:57 AM UTC

As a contributor to Deno, I am actually quite surprised that this got resurfaced on Hacker news after the hype June last year.

That being said, I suggest checking out this video (recorded this April) for updated information about Deno, since things have changed quite a bit since the initial announcement: https://youtu.be/z6JRlx5NC9E

(Edit: fixed link, posted the wrong one. Why would YouTube think I want to share ads...)

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Post by 29athrowaway » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 6:18 AM UTC

lajawfe wrote: post #7

Watch 10 things I regret about node. js - https://youtu.be/M3BM9TB-8yA from the creator of both node and deno to undersatnd his motivations behind the deno project. A very intriguing talk.

> Access between V8 (unprivileged) and Rust (privileged) is only done via serialized messages defined in this flatbuffer.

Expect to see this in "n things I regret about deno"

Re: A Secure Runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript Built with V8, Rust, and Tokio

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Post by kreetx » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 6:20 AM UTC

kevinkassimo wrote: post #8

As a contributor to Deno, I am actually quite surprised that this got resurfaced on Hacker news after the hype June last year. That being said, I suggest checking out this video (recorded this April) for updated information about Deno, since things have changed quite a bit since the initial announcement: https://youtu.be/z6JRlx5NC9E (Edit: fixed link, posted the wrong one. Why would YouTube think I want to share ads.…

Curious about deno's development stage: can the brave already run it in production, or there are probably too many breaking changes in the pipe that it's better to wait?