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Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction.

So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night.

To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?

The last time the HK police used force there was a massive backlash and the police were angry the government put them in that position to take the brunt of the people's anger.

There are very good non-conspiratorial reasons for the police to take their time, this time around. Plus there's always a subset of protestors who just want to destroy property and take a more aggressive stance (usually the younger ones), regardless of the predictable way it will be spun by opponents and perceived by the more moderate public. Not every act of violence or property destruction can be blamed on police provocateurs.

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?

That seems to be a common opinion on the ground, apparently.

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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FWIW, the BBC World Service coverage of this has been... disappointing.

During the time the protestors were raising the British flag in the legislative chamber, the World Service was doing an in-depth report on Taylor Swift's latest social media rant, and interviewing some blogger about Ivanka Trump.

I remember when the BBC was the go-to place for breaking world news.

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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FWIW, the BBC World Service coverage of this has been... disappointing. During the time the protestors were raising the British flag in the legislative chamber, the World Service was doing an in-depth report on Taylor Swift's latest social media rant, and interviewing some blogger about Ivanka Trump. I remember when the BBC was the go-to place for breaking world news.

Perhaps, they are stalling until political leadership can suggest an angle to take on the events.

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?

False flag op was my instant reaction as well. The original protestors were fastidious in their civic-mindedness. These are not them. These protestors are producing made-to-order photos for the Chinese press. When China steps in to "restore order", this will be why.

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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I watched (on reuters) the police come in with tear gas and beat sticks and riot shields and beat/gas the entire crowd away, with a sign reading 'WARNING: TEAR GAS'. Even though the legislative chamber seemed relatively empty compared to the large crowd outside milling about and continuing the peaceful protest...

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?

Maybe. But there was also a mass peaceful demonstration held concurrently (more or less for the same cause), the protesters waited till most of those demonstrators had left, or enough of them who left behind to support them, before action.

One really needs to look at the whole picture to gain some perspective on this recent "sudden" raise of civil disobedience in HK.

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