China pressured London police to arrest Tiananmen protester, says watchdog
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#2I'd say no countries dare to not please China. Blatantly attacks the people who risk their lives to say.
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#4Someone in the Home Office needs to be kicked out... rather than this false narrative of China strong arming the UK, to create manufactured consent against China. Someone in the Home Office bent over backwards to appease autocracy.
That sounds like a different spin on the exact same narrative to me. Which would appear to contradict your claim about this being a false narrative.
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#6This is why projects like the EU, NATO, & NAFTA that require compromise for the sake of mutually beneficial cooperation should be supported. This is why continuing any policy of exploitation in the developing world is unacceptable. This is why countries must be actively engaged in the rest of the world, instead of selfishly retreating inwards. This is why making sacrifices in good faith, with no expectation that rivals will reciprocate, is necessary.
Otherwise, these previously powerful countries will quickly discover that when the shoe is on the other foot, there's no reason to believe that China, Russia, or even India will treat them any better than Westerners treated those at their mercy during their own centuries of supremacy.
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#8To me the Danish story was less a story about Chinese influence and more about our democracy's separation of powers or lack thereof. How our most powerful politicians and their minions basically can have our police do anything even if it is obviously wrong.
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#91) I'm ASTOUNDED that "insulting" was in there from 1986-2014. 2) This is extremely vague and seems like it could be used to arrest any protestor.
> (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [or abusive],
> within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.
Seriously? Causing people distress is a crime? Distress with words? We're not allowed to make direct threats of violence either, but this seems like a substantially lower bar.
So from [1] the lawyer has to argue that the conduct was reasonable? This is extremely subjective too.
This just seems weird to me, coming from a country where freedom of speech is so highly regarded (and here it has been a little controversial lately). It just feels undemocratic to me.
I understand my neighbors across the pond may not feel that way and I'd be curious about their thoughts. Is this just an abuse of that law? Does that law also feel undemocratic? Other more nuanced position?
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_5_Public_Order_Act_198...
Re: China pressured London police to arrest Tiananmen protester, says watchdog
#10There was a parallel story in Denmark where the Danish police prevented free Tibet demonstrators demonstrating during the visit of the Chinese president in 2012. It led to an official inquiry but the trail ended blind where the leading police officers giving orders to detain the demonstrators could not remember where their instructions came from and the electronic paper trail had been deleted. To me the Danish story…