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Durable Design (2017)

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Re: Durable Design (2017)

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Are there any established companies that design products like this? Every story I see about consumer friendly design is either the first product from a company that stopped being consumer friendly down the line, or the only product from a company that's now dead.

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Durable isn't timeless, that's for sure, for that product looks pretty average.

What I'm more looking out for are companies that create sustainable products, with replaceable batteries and/or a return program that involves the recycling and proper disposal of those batteries/products.

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Durable isn't timeless, that's for sure, for that product looks pretty average. What I'm more looking out for are companies that create sustainable products, with replaceable batteries and/or a return program that involves the recycling and proper disposal of those batteries/products.

> Durable isn't timeless ... for that product looks pretty average.

The design can be timeless without the design being beautiful. The design is more than its appearance.

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Durable isn't timeless, that's for sure, for that product looks pretty average. What I'm more looking out for are companies that create sustainable products, with replaceable batteries and/or a return program that involves the recycling and proper disposal of those batteries/products.

> Durable isn't timeless ... for that product looks pretty average. The design can be timeless without the design being beautiful. The design is more than its appearance.

I respectfully disagree. For a design to be timeless, it means that it feels right through the ages. Feeling right implies "good aesthetics".

Re: Durable Design (2017)

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The last 'flagship' mobile phone with removable battery - the LG V20 did ok and had a diehard fanbase, but still mobile phone manufacturers dropped replaceable batteries as a feature. It certainly is done to force more sales and consumption in the market.

In LG's case though, it backfired as their mobile marketshare dropped with each successor to the V20. I suspect they could have carved a large niche by evolving the V20 design and fixing the problems that plagued it. LG's repairable phones were a point of difference. The V30 and beyond were glued shut and offered very little differentiate themselves.

Canon used to ship various models of pocket camera which offered a similar feature as shown by the original post (ability to use AA or AAA batteries depending on model). This to me was a practical feature but the market must have shown otherwise.

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> Durable isn't timeless ... for that product looks pretty average. The design can be timeless without the design being beautiful. The design is more than its appearance.

I respectfully disagree. For a design to be timeless, it means that it feels right through the ages. Feeling right implies "good aesthetics".

For a design to be timeless, it means that you can send it back in time, and it will feel right for any era that it appears in.

(I'm joking because even so-called timeless designs might look pretty out of place if you send them back far enough)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Durable isn't timeless ... for that product looks pretty average. The design can be timeless without the design being beautiful. The design is more than its appearance.

I respectfully disagree. For a design to be timeless, it means that it feels right through the ages. Feeling right implies "good aesthetics".

I respectfully disagree. I think most people would be okay with "average aesthetics" as long as the functionality of the product is designed well (flexible batteries in this case)

What looks good to 5/10 people, might not look good to the other 5/10. For an instance, consider an iPhone 4S. It is a pretty average design "aesthetically" IMO. But the phone did extraordinarily well because it was a well engineered phone. Another example is this website that you're looking at. I would call this average aesthetics as well.

Of course good aesthetics is an awesome add-on, but it is not fair to disqualify a product based on just aesthetics.

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Durable isn't timeless, that's for sure, for that product looks pretty average. What I'm more looking out for are companies that create sustainable products, with replaceable batteries and/or a return program that involves the recycling and proper disposal of those batteries/products.

Dieter Rams’ 10 principles include long lasting (7) and environmentally friendly (9). Aesthetic is there (3), but it’s just 10% of it :)
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