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From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by lcnmrn »

danielecook wrote: post #2

I went from python to go to nim. Actually I still like go - but nim is an easy transition from python. I think nim is the best thing out there for building tiny CLI utilities. It’s a fun language to code in.

I wonder if there's any performance difference between Cython and Nim.

Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by coffeescripter »

danielecook wrote: post #2

I went from python to go to nim. Actually I still like go - but nim is an easy transition from python. I think nim is the best thing out there for building tiny CLI utilities. It’s a fun language to code in.

Nim is very nicel Not that it matters much in most cases, but the compiled binary sizes are also quite low compared to Rust.

Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by trpc »

I love Rust. Rust can be frustrating for those who didn't do enough c/c++ but once your brain and eyes get used to it, it becomes a joy to develop with. I never felt so excited writing code unless with Rust nowadays and back when I learned C++ for the first time more than 10 years ago when I was still a teenager. Rust is the closest thing to a perfect language ever existed imho.

EDIT: for some reason I get mass downvoted for whatever I say on this retarded website. Thank you this was my last one. Never seen so much insecure retards who want to feel in control for once in their pathetic lives in any other social website. You should rename this website to "Insecure Hacker News".

Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by dev_dull »

> I compiled the code and … no error message. Everything went fine. But?! I just added a field to a struct, the compiler should say that my code is not good anymore because I’m not initializing the value where it should be!

This is your big hangup with Go? You added a new field, didn’t use that field anywhere, and the compiler didn’t complain? I’ve heard a lot of valid criticisms of the language but this is a new one for me.

Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by Townley »

As a Python dev getting into more Rust development, I'm surprised whenever I hear of this as a progression towards better tools, rather than a way of adding new tools into my belt.

Django/Flask are great tools for spinning up a CRUD application with authentication/authorization, API endpoints, and a template language if I don't want to build out a React or Vue SPA.

Rust is a great language that's opened me to new domains of programming, and also gives me the ability to write more performant, hardened API endpoints at the expense of productivity in hours (this gap will definitely shrink as I get better and as rust frameworks mature, but I'd be surprised if it went away entirely)

If a developer views a suite of tools they know very well as "something they used to use", they're more likely to make future architectural decisions based on incorrectly viewing framework-powered python as a relic of the past, rather than a viable (and often preferred, if hours of work are factored in) alternative.

Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by whateveracct »

dev_dull wrote: post #6

> I compiled the code and … no error message. Everything went fine. But?! I just added a field to a struct, the compiler should say that my code is not good anymore because I’m not initializing the value where it should be! This is your big hangup with Go? You added a new field, didn’t use that field anywhere, and the compiler didn’t complain? I’ve heard a lot of valid criticisms of the language but this is a new one…

It's a pretty big annoyance with Go though. I hate that all struct fields are optional.

Re: From Python to Go to Rust: an opinionated journey (2018)

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Post by dev_dull »

trpc wrote: post #5

I love Rust. Rust can be frustrating for those who didn't do enough c/c++ but once your brain and eyes get used to it, it becomes a joy to develop with. I never felt so excited writing code unless with Rust nowadays and back when I learned C++ for the first time more than 10 years ago when I was still a teenager. Rust is the closest thing to a perfect language ever existed imho. EDIT: for some reason I get mass downv…

Would you still use rust for your CRUD apps? I think of it as a specialized, safe, performant system language. I wouldn’t think of turning to it for the random rest services we constantly churn out.
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