Ending cash bail

I'm not a local, could you explain the difference ? In practice, are there limitations on jail time or the cases in which one is allowed to jail people (e.g. jail people for suspected murder but not suspected theft)?

Re: Ending cash bail

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Post by pyrale » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 8:54 AM UTC

negamax wrote: post #4

If money spent on keeping them in jail is > the money required for bail; system needs fixing!

What if the other proposition is true? Is it ok to infringe on fundamental liberties for utilitarian reasons? If so, would you condone the chinese social points system, which follows this logic further?

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Post by quickthrower2 » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 9:14 AM UTC

negamax wrote: post #4

If money spent on keeping them in jail is > the money required for bail; system needs fixing!

Replace "them" with "us"

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Post by TheChaplain » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 10:17 AM UTC

pyrale wrote: post #5

bdavis__ wrote: post #2

this is jail, not prison.

I'm not a local, could you explain the difference ? In practice, are there limitations on jail time or the cases in which one is allowed to jail people (e.g. jail people for suspected murder but not suspected theft)?

AFAIK jail is where you end up until the trial is finished. Once you're sentenced, you end up in prison.

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Post by chrismcb » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 11:34 AM UTC

negamax wrote: post #4

If money spent on keeping them in jail is > the money required for bail; system needs fixing!

Bail money isn't used to keep people in jail. It is returned to you after the trail. The only time the government keeps the ball money, is if the person fails to show up in court. The problem is, the average person doesn't have a lot of assets. Most people can't afford the ball, and many can't even give something to a bondsmen.

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Post by RickJWagner » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 11:56 AM UTC

How about the cost of cops chasing around people who commit crimes again? It seems that should be part of the cost if the perps are put back on the street too easily.