‘No to China extradition’ – Hong Kong protest against controversial new law
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#2Hong kong is the least independent in a group of regions like mongolia or taiwan that China all lays claim to. It's an interesting lithmus test for their future behaviour in those regions. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/ROC_Admi...
Re: ‘No to China extradition’ – Hong Kong protest against controversial new law
#3Hong kong is the least independent in a group of regions like mongolia or taiwan that China all lays claim to. It's an interesting lithmus test for their future behaviour in those regions. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/ROC_Admi...
It is worth noting that the ROC’s claims in Mongolia don’t reflect any ambition either from the Taiwanese or the Chinese to seize Mongolia; the ROC simply claims them because it used to a long time ago and for diplomatic reasons is not altering those claims.
Re: ‘No to China extradition’ – Hong Kong protest against controversial new law
#4Hong kong is the least independent in a group of regions like mongolia or taiwan that China all lays claim to. It's an interesting lithmus test for their future behaviour in those regions. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/ROC_Admi...
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#5Inside the protest.
I think that is really a new break as anyone can be pull back to china. Including any foreigner. China has no rule of law. No human rights or at lest right in court.
Back to the protest.
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#6This is huge for Hong Kong.
It's not just a standard extradition agreement like existing ones made with other countries.
With Hong Kong under China's foot, there is a grave risk that any -unverifiable- trumped up charge made in the Mainland against dissidents and those voicing discontent against the Chinese government would result in potential extradition to China, a country that has no rule of law and where torture is routine (China is 82/126 in the latest Rule of Law Index[1]. HK is 16/126).
The HK government tried to assuage the critics by including some safeguards that would require the crime to be serious enough to require at least 7 years of imprisonment for the extradition to be processed, but voicing criticism of the Chinese government is considered a crime against national security in China...
There is little doubt that at some point these types of requests will be made and this new rule is opening Pandora's box wide.
Hong Kong is a great place, with great people who basically have little to hope for as the little freedom they had is getting eroded day by day.
China advises against the western views on separation of powers. This alone should ring alarms bells.
Loud ones.
Re: ‘No to China extradition’ – Hong Kong protest against controversial new law
#7Inside the protest. I think that is really a new break as anyone can be pull back to china. Including any foreigner. China has no rule of law. No human rights or at lest right in court. Back to the protest.
Can't believe this makes it to HN, although I feel politics is off topic I can't help but to feed to this because it means so much to me.
Over a million people, or 1 out of 5-7 people walked out against this tighten grip. The whole Hong Kong island is dead lock now. China has been subtly (or so much with this attempt) trying to erode our freedom, rule of law and culture.
Shamefully I'm not physically in Hong Kong. Thank you for your effort, that's the least I could do.
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#8I'm at the event right now, was waiting for 4 hours in Victoria park before finally started moving. People are very peaceful and non aggressive, and I'm not sure this strategy will work.
Extradition to China is basically extradition to North Korea, a lawless country with no police, no courts and no justice.
Eventually this will extend to crimes like using a VPN and operating a group chat, not to mention the threat to businesses, journalists and lawyers.
I imagine if my startup refuses to provide data to mainland China, I could be held without court at an undisclosed location for as long as needed.
Re: ‘No to China extradition’ – Hong Kong protest against controversial new law
#9Inside the protest. I think that is really a new break as anyone can be pull back to china. Including any foreigner. China has no rule of law. No human rights or at lest right in court. Back to the protest.
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Re: ‘No to China extradition’ – Hong Kong protest against controversial new law
#10Inside the protest. I think that is really a new break as anyone can be pull back to china. Including any foreigner. China has no rule of law. No human rights or at lest right in court. Back to the protest.
Can't believe this makes it to HN, although I feel politics is off topic I can't help but to feed to this because it means so much to me. Over a million people, or 1 out of 5-7 people walked out against this tighten grip. The whole Hong Kong island is dead lock now. China has been subtly (or so much with this attempt) trying to erode our freedom, rule of law and culture. Shamefully I'm not physically in Hong Kong. Th…
Not sure that turnout is over a million. Even HKFP are being cautious and only switched from “tens” to “hundreds” of thousands about an hour ago. I do hope that you are right though! And even 1 in 10 or 15 would be remarkable.
Edit: the SCMP has some turnout figures. As usual they vary wildly.¹
1. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3013725...