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Unwalled.Garden: souped-up RSS for P2P social apps

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Re: Unwalled.Garden: souped-up RSS for P2P social apps

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Post by nonwifehaver3 »

chuckgreenman wrote: post #2

https://activitypub.rocks/

Every existing ActivityPub application requires you to rely on a server operated by someone else that controls your identity. This application puts you fundamentally in control of your content: it is just served from your own device by default, with the option to have another server pin your content (all of your content has Dat addresses).

Also, this sort of "use this, not that" dismissal ignores the fact that almost every decentralized application can be bridged together. It would not be hard to have Mastodon/Pleroma pull someones Unwalled.Garden feed and put it on its federated timeline, or conversely for Mastodon/Pleroma to expose its users feeds as Unwalled.Garden files.

Re: Unwalled.Garden: souped-up RSS for P2P social apps

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Post by nonwifehaver3 »

This looks awesome! A few questions if anyone knowledgable is around:

* Does Unwalled.Garden automatically pin the content of people you follow, so that their stuff stays online if they aren't?

* I didn't understand "We also use a second “private” dat for records which should be kept off the network". What is this referring to, the follow request, or some other private content like a DM? I assume that since this is still Dat there is no access control if you happen to know the address?

* How is reader privacy and DHT coming along with this ecosystem?

Re: Unwalled.Garden: souped-up RSS for P2P social apps

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Post by pfraze »

nonwifehaver3 wrote: post #5

This looks awesome! A few questions if anyone knowledgable is around: * Does Unwalled.Garden automatically pin the content of people you follow, so that their stuff stays online if they aren't? * I didn't understand "We also use a second “private” dat for records which should be kept off the network". What is this referring to, the follow request, or some other private content like a DM? I assume that since this is s…

> Does Unwalled.Garden automatically pin the content of people you follow, so that their stuff stays online if they aren't?

It gets saved locally so you can access it when they're offline. It'll also be possible to instruct your pinning service to seed it on your behalf.

> I didn't understand "We also use a second “private” dat for records which should be kept off the network".

I'll talk more about this in the future as Beaker 0.9 is closer to release. We basically are creating a filesystem with a root dat (which is private). Your public dat will then be "mounted" to it at /public so it feels like one unified FS. The structure will look something like this:

  /
  /.data/.unwalled.garden/*
> How is reader privacy and DHT coming along with this ecosystem?

At this stage, I'm pretty sure we're going to need to use proxies to solve this. We're open to using an anonymity protocol like Tor but still uncertain about the tradeoffs.

Re: Unwalled.Garden: souped-up RSS for P2P social apps

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Post by davidy123 »

I'm going to start sounding like a broken record, but I find it peculiar this project claims RSS didn't go far enough, then it creates a short-circuited implementation when the actual went-very-far progression for decentralized information, something like RSS-XML-FOAF-RDF-Linked-Data-Solid, uses well established and open ended schemas for much more than this project's basics. With decentralized identifiers (DIDs), it will work on blockchains too. Fine, make a million different decentralized systems, but why not just use LD in a basic way so it's not just creating more fragmentation?

In following Solid, I've noticed a lot of decentralized projects are interested and adapting to its approach.

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