NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by rasengan » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 12:55 PM UTC

NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]
torguard.net

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Post by liamkinne » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:08 PM UTC

With these VPN services having become a race to the bottom, it's not all that unsurprising that stuff like this happens.

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Post by billpg » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:10 PM UTC

I'm getting a TLS error from this link. Is it for everyone or just me?

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:11 PM UTC

billpg wrote: post #3

I'm getting a TLS error from this link. Is it for everyone or just me?

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Post by rasengan » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:13 PM UTC

billpg wrote: post #3

I'm getting a TLS error from this link. Is it for everyone or just me?

It’s working fine for me.

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Post by bithavoc » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:13 PM UTC

billpg wrote: post #3

I'm getting a TLS error from this link. Is it for everyone or just me?

It's working fine on my end.

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Post by thebouv » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

billpg wrote: post #3

I'm getting a TLS error from this link. Is it for everyone or just me?

I get that same issue.

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Post by wongarsu » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

billpg wrote: post #3

I'm getting a TLS error from this link. Is it for everyone or just me?

it works for me (Firefox, Windows 10)

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Post by wongarsu » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:17 PM UTC

> Collective 7 is a Canadian hosting company [...] now owned or controlled by NordVPN. [...]

> NordVPN threatened to release TorGuard’s confidential and trade secret information that was obtained by NordVPN from Collective 7— who, in turn, obtained this information during the time TorGuard utilized Collective 7 as a service provider. NordVPN threatened to release this information unless TorGuard forced or coerced a third party into silence, as this third party was publishing legitimate criticisms of issues associated with NordVPN’s business practices.

If true this reflects very poorly on NordVPN. How much criticism did they manage to suppress successfully until someone sued for blackmail?

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Post by cyberpunk » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 1:21 PM UTC

Had a quick skim; it seems at a glance like someone from TorGuard badmouthed NordVPN on a youtube comment (sigh), so NordVPN apparently in response threatened to disclose "trade secret information obtained by NordVPN regarding TorGuard’s systems" it obtained via a hosting provider TorGuard used which is owned by the NordVPN people. This apparently involved some pretty sketchy stuff like sending people to the house of a TG employee to intimidate them.

Whoops.

What kind of 'trade secret information' could a vpn provider be blackmailed with though? What kind of information could you gleam as the owner of a 'service provider' for such a use? I'm suffering from an apparent lack of imagination here.

Either way, this looks pretty messy and as a NordVPN user, I'm surprised how amateurish this all seems.