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Re: The Human Antivenom Project

#2
For science!

But seriously. I don't know if I want to nominate the guy for a medal or put him in jail. The incident with milking a cobra while drunk is criminally reckless, not just to his own health, but also to whoever runs into the now probably escaping snake next. He might have had proper precautions in place, like snake-proof rooms (which is harder than it sounds), but somehow I doubt it....

Re: The Human Antivenom Project

#4
This guy is literally a honey badger.

In the famous video that brought in the meme [1], honey badger experiences the lethargic reaction to the several bites from a cobra it hunts but eventually recovers. And this ability seems to be inborn, after thousands and maybe millions years of natural selection. So there is definitely a precedent.

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

Re: The Human Antivenom Project

#6

>> Glanville took his code and left his prestigious job at Pfizer. ... . He now licenses his software and antibody library back to Pfizer... How the hell did that happen?

Very confused about this as well. Maybe he brought the code with him to Pfizer before starting?

Re: The Human Antivenom Project

#7

>> Glanville took his code and left his prestigious job at Pfizer. ... . He now licenses his software and antibody library back to Pfizer... How the hell did that happen?

Very confused about this as well. Maybe he brought the code with him to Pfizer before starting?

Perhaps he negotiated hardball: "I am the only one who understands this code or how to use it; you own the copyright, yes, but without me, it's useless, and will bitrot within years. I am leaving, and if I don't have it, I will simply rewrite it from scratch, and better, though it will take me a lot of time I would rather not spend and risks failure. So you have a choice: you can license it to me and we can share the results, or you can be a dog in the manger and pay full price for my future work. Choose."

Re: The Human Antivenom Project

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For science! But seriously. I don't know if I want to nominate the guy for a medal or put him in jail. The incident with milking a cobra while drunk is criminally reckless, not just to his own health, but also to whoever runs into the now probably escaping snake next. He might have had proper precautions in place, like snake-proof rooms (which is harder than it sounds), but somehow I doubt it....

Keeping hot snakes in your home is definitely not a good idea. You will get bitten eventually, and you'd better keep your own supply of antivenin since there's not much cobra antivenin in the US.

On the plus side, an escaped cobra probably won't live long in the wilds of Wisconsin. No other cobras to mate with, different food supply, and it's too cold.

Re: The Human Antivenom Project

#9
This guy has been doing it for 30 years now (injecting himself with snake venom): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcbqB0pFRPA

And also a longer but older documentary-short about the same person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_m-rDUNw0

Apparently, the same guy (Steve Ludwin) actually has his own snake show on VICE nowadays. You can see all videos about him (and ton of snakes) here: https://video.vice.com/en_uk/topic/steve-ludwin

Re: The Human Antivenom Project

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very confused about this as well. Maybe he brought the code with him to Pfizer before starting?

Perhaps he negotiated hardball: "I am the only one who understands this code or how to use it; you own the copyright, yes, but without me, it's useless, and will bitrot within years. I am leaving, and if I don't have it, I will simply rewrite it from scratch, and better, though it will take me a lot of time I would rather not spend and risks failure. So you have a choice: you can license it to me and we can share the…

Possible, but the way these big corporations work it's more likely that just nobody cared. Maybe he even wanted to improve his work within the organization and pitched his ideas but no one wanted hear them, so he left and rewrote the software from scratch for his own company.
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