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Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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This is a good counter-argument with some evidence that China and India are not the toxic hell hole that sometimes pops up in media.

The thing that isn't mentioned in the article and is in the paper is that the majority >80% of the greening is due to cropland instead of the forests.

Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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While this isn't bad, these new trees have probably absorbed like 0.000001% of global CO2 emissions in the last 20 years.

probably...like...

If you want people to take your arguments seriously you should back it up with facts.

Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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This is a good counter-argument with some evidence that China and India are not the toxic hell hole that sometimes pops up in media. The thing that isn't mentioned in the article and is in the paper is that the majority >80% of the greening is due to cropland instead of the forests.

I don't know if it is a counterargument, you can fill your countryside with trees while also burning a mountain of coal.

Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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i think we'll see this more and more as China shifts its manufacturing over to Africa (currently huge investments going on).

It doesn't really solve the problem, you just get to point at someone else who's now holding the ball instead of you when it all goes up in flames.

Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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This is a good counter-argument with some evidence that China and India are not the toxic hell hole that sometimes pops up in media. The thing that isn't mentioned in the article and is in the paper is that the majority >80% of the greening is due to cropland instead of the forests.

What now? I make of it a weak counter-argument at most. If you have say, more forests and toxic hell holes of cities, is that a counter-argument?

And the cropland, if its desiccated and over fertilized?

Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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This is a good counter-argument with some evidence that China and India are not the toxic hell hole that sometimes pops up in media. The thing that isn't mentioned in the article and is in the paper is that the majority >80% of the greening is due to cropland instead of the forests.

That's nice, but also https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plas...

Re: Nasa Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India

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I think its very important to engage with the fact that this is something China can do because of what we in the west deem unacceptably "authoritarian" governance. This effect isn't entirely due to people's starry-eyed conservationism: the government arrests people and closes factories that violate these ecological goals.

By way of example, this happened a few weeks ago and is very difficult to find coverage of in english speaking media: https://nationalpost.com/news/world/china-makes-arrests-shut...

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