Hong Kong activists wanted by police gain protection in Germany
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#2“If the German government thinks that the Hong Kong judiciary is independent, they would not grant me refugee status,”
I just want to point out that refugee status is given on a case by case basis. Even with an independent judiciary, if your laws oppress some people, refugee status can be obtained. Europe has accepted refugees from USA during McCarty's era.
Accepting a refugee from another nation does have diplomatic meaning but is does not automatically mean that they will dismiss each other judgements automatically.
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#3“If the German government thinks that the Hong Kong judiciary is independent, they would not grant me refugee status,” I just want to point out that refugee status is given on a case by case basis. Even with an independent judiciary, if your laws oppress some people, refugee status can be obtained. Europe has accepted refugees from USA during McCarty's era. Accepting a refugee from another nation does have diplomatic…
And, preposterously, America has given political asylum to German home-schoolers a few years ago.
Re: Hong Kong activists wanted by police gain protection in Germany
#4“If the German government thinks that the Hong Kong judiciary is independent, they would not grant me refugee status,” I just want to point out that refugee status is given on a case by case basis. Even with an independent judiciary, if your laws oppress some people, refugee status can be obtained. Europe has accepted refugees from USA during McCarty's era. Accepting a refugee from another nation does have diplomatic…
And, preposterously, America has given political asylum to German home-schoolers a few years ago.
Also I think all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US. It does not mean that US thinks EU courts are not independent.
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#5“If the German government thinks that the Hong Kong judiciary is independent, they would not grant me refugee status,” I just want to point out that refugee status is given on a case by case basis. Even with an independent judiciary, if your laws oppress some people, refugee status can be obtained. Europe has accepted refugees from USA during McCarty's era. Accepting a refugee from another nation does have diplomatic…
And, preposterously, America has given political asylum to German home-schoolers a few years ago.
If you're referencing the Romeikes, they were ultimately denied political asylum, but have, as far as I know, not been deported.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
And, preposterously, America has given political asylum to German home-schoolers a few years ago.
Also I think all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US. It does not mean that US thinks EU courts are not independent.
Who is "expelled" for hate speech? Where to?
In any case, there's a difference between political prosecution and some minor international differences of what's legal and what's not. If it were that easy to get asylum, people would probably prefer it to participating in the Green Card Lottery or H1B Visa process.
Freedom of speech also isn't the only category of "political" crimes. Many Germans consider the (partial) lack of speed limits as a defining characteristic of freedom, yet Americans can't get asylum at 60mph just because of it. On a more serious note, there are a great many political freedoms that some if not all European countries are better at guaranteeing than the US. Elections are administered fair and it's generally easy to vote even in poor neighbourhoods; No death penalty; Public defenders that actually have time to defend you, etc. Heck, the racial disparities in the US criminal justice system border on wilful prosecution of a minority.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
And, preposterously, America has given political asylum to German home-schoolers a few years ago.
Also I think all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US. It does not mean that US thinks EU courts are not independent.
> Also I think all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US.
Who was expelled from the EU for hate speech?
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#8Assuming Hong Kong is indeed tightening its grip on the people and accepting more influence from Beijing, I wonder if that was a smart move. I mean, Hong Kong is a cash cow for China and an innovation driver. It foots on lots of trade and internationals coming in. Why would you fiddle with that and threaten making Hong Kong less desirable to foreigners?
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#9The extradition law is what any foreigner shall be worried about.
But if you concern about hongkinger, he is one of the start. Not just the usual as they are the new bred of young who think more about hk as home. It is sad they have to run. Sigh.
Re: Hong Kong activists wanted by police gain protection in Germany
#10Assuming Hong Kong is indeed tightening its grip on the people and accepting more influence from Beijing, I wonder if that was a smart move. I mean, Hong Kong is a cash cow for China and an innovation driver. It foots on lots of trade and internationals coming in. Why would you fiddle with that and threaten making Hong Kong less desirable to foreigners?
China as a whole has grown massively, making Hong Kong proportionally much less important than it was 20 years ago. That allows Bejing to stop their hands-off approach and "bring them into the fold".