Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by jasondc » Mon, May 20, 2019, 8:57 PM UTC

Security for Elasticsearch is now free
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Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by mrkstu » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:14 PM UTC

Free, not open source version. Obviously a reaction to Amazon's fork- not wanting to give them any code to pull into their version.

It will be interesting to see if this is enough to retain the majority of the userbase or if we'll still see a majority migrate to the 'Open Distro' fork.

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by chelmzy » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:23 PM UTC

mrkstu wrote: post #2

Free, not open source version. Obviously a reaction to Amazon's fork- not wanting to give them any code to pull into their version. It will be interesting to see if this is enough to retain the majority of the userbase or if we'll still see a majority migrate to the 'Open Distro' fork.

I was under the impression that they already opened the code for X-Pack features.

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by KenanSulayman » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

Interesting. Three hours ago someone in our Ops team shared a link to "Open Distro for Elasticsearch" [1] and it's also featured on the AWS console login page.

Is this a very rushed reaction to it? Or is this related? I would really love to have a clarification of what's happening in that space.

[1] https://opendistro.github.io/for-elasticsearch/

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by vorpalhex » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

Too little too late? Trying to charge for TLS was a very poor move and it's made me not trust ElasticSearch...

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by igama » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:30 PM UTC

KenanSulayman wrote: post #4

Interesting. Three hours ago someone in our Ops team shared a link to "Open Distro for Elasticsearch" [1] and it's also featured on the AWS console login page. Is this a very rushed reaction to it? Or is this related? I would really love to have a clarification of what's happening in that space. [1] https://opendistro.github.io/for-elasticsearch/

Opendistro was announced by AWS a few weeks ago. It’s their fork of ES with security features and some of the XPack functionality included.

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by jka » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:32 PM UTC

mrkstu wrote: post #2

Free, not open source version. Obviously a reaction to Amazon's fork- not wanting to give them any code to pull into their version. It will be interesting to see if this is enough to retain the majority of the userbase or if we'll still see a majority migrate to the 'Open Distro' fork.

Good catch and an important distinction.

Some background here:

https://devclass.com/2019/03/12/aws-launches-elasticsearch-d...

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:34 PM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #5

Too little too late? Trying to charge for TLS was a very poor move and it's made me not trust ElasticSearch...

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Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by haney » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:35 PM UTC

I know it's hard to make a buck with an open source business model but deciding to charge more for security related features is always so frustrating to me. It leads to a culture of insecure deployments in environments when the business is trying to save money. Differentiate on storage or number of cores or something, anything but auth/security. I'm glad they've finally reversed this.

Re: Security for Elasticsearch is now free

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Post by nickserv » Mon, May 20, 2019, 9:36 PM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #5

Too little too late? Trying to charge for TLS was a very poor move and it's made me not trust ElasticSearch...

I can understand they need to make money, but still a bit shady. Honestly though it's not something critical for my needs. Now if they could lower the resource hogging a bit, that would interest me... Maybe even pay for that.