Tech companies and governments sign up to Christchurch Call agreement
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#2More internet censorship?
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#3Oh the hypocrisy of this!! ISIS and ilk have mastered the art of propaganda using online tools, and have been ignored for well over a decade. But ChristChurch was the moment of reckoning?
Do not let the bad actions of the extreme corrode your civil rights - the right to free speech is both a fundamental human right, and that enshrined in the US Constitution with the first amendment. Banning trucks because terrorists have routinely driven over civilians to wreak havoc, is no way to deal with the matter
I fully support the US government, and it's upholding of the first amendment on this matter: "It cited freedom of expression and freedom of the press as reasons it would not be joining the agreement, and said promoting credible, alternative narratives was the best way to defeat terrorist messaging."
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#4I guess they're not going to ban content that glorifies war, though? That would be a bridge too far.
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Re: Tech companies and governments sign up to Christchurch Call agreement
#6Oh the hypocrisy of this!! ISIS and ilk have mastered the art of propaganda using online tools, and have been ignored for well over a decade. But ChristChurch was the moment of reckoning? Do not let the bad actions of the extreme corrode your civil rights - the right to free speech is both a fundamental human right, and that enshrined in the US Constitution with the first amendment. Banning trucks because terrorists…
The first amendment is against government censorship, not private companies providing platforms for free speech on their private networks.
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#7Oh the hypocrisy of this!! ISIS and ilk have mastered the art of propaganda using online tools, and have been ignored for well over a decade. But ChristChurch was the moment of reckoning? Do not let the bad actions of the extreme corrode your civil rights - the right to free speech is both a fundamental human right, and that enshrined in the US Constitution with the first amendment. Banning trucks because terrorists…
Huh? The US has been very aggressive about shutting down websites that spread Al-Qaeda and ISIS propaganda on most websites. ISIS basically caught everyone with their pants down spreading their stuff on social media, but once people started noticing it, it was purged rapidly.
It's not my view, but you could make the argument than the original sin was censoring Al-Qaeda content post-9/11. Obviously, nobody complained. Now the same tactics are being turned against the far-right and people have discovered a new love for free speech.
Re: Tech companies and governments sign up to Christchurch Call agreement
#8Oh the hypocrisy of this!! ISIS and ilk have mastered the art of propaganda using online tools, and have been ignored for well over a decade. But ChristChurch was the moment of reckoning? Do not let the bad actions of the extreme corrode your civil rights - the right to free speech is both a fundamental human right, and that enshrined in the US Constitution with the first amendment. Banning trucks because terrorists…
What do you mean? I was under the impression that ISIS was extremely censored online, particularly by the companies that signed this. Is that not the case? On the otherhand, I see white supremacist propganda basically daily at this point.
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#9Oh the hypocrisy of this!! ISIS and ilk have mastered the art of propaganda using online tools, and have been ignored for well over a decade. But ChristChurch was the moment of reckoning? Do not let the bad actions of the extreme corrode your civil rights - the right to free speech is both a fundamental human right, and that enshrined in the US Constitution with the first amendment. Banning trucks because terrorists…
Huh? The US has been very aggressive about shutting down websites that spread Al-Qaeda and ISIS propaganda on most websites. ISIS basically caught everyone with their pants down spreading their stuff on social media, but once people started noticing it, it was purged rapidly. It's not my view, but you could make the argument than the original sin was censoring Al-Qaeda content post-9/11. Obviously, nobody complained.…
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I didn't see any people protecting ISIS's free speech. Now that this censorship is targeting other hate speech, suddenly everyone is shouting "free speech". The fact is, most people calling for free speech don't truly believe in it, they just want to be able to spout their own version of hate.
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Huh? The US has been very aggressive about shutting down websites that spread Al-Qaeda and ISIS propaganda on most websites. ISIS basically caught everyone with their pants down spreading their stuff on social media, but once people started noticing it, it was purged rapidly. It's not my view, but you could make the argument than the original sin was censoring Al-Qaeda content post-9/11. Obviously, nobody complained.…
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I didn't see any people protecting ISIS's free speech. Now that this censorship is targeting other hate speech, suddenly everyone is shouting "free speech". The fact is, most people calling for free speech don't truly believe in it, they just want to be able to spout their own version of hate.
FWIW, there were a small group of people raising concerns about how the government went about shutting down "terrorist" websites after 9/11 but it largely fell on deaf ears. These people have been ideologically consistent, but they're outside of the political mainstream.