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Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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In electronics, the success of areas like Shenzhen and the relative expense of engineering in the US has decimated non-defense industry. In 2002, there were 385,000 electrical engineers in the US. In 2014, there were only 300,000. (https://www.computerworld.com/article/2487847/what-stem-shor...) Why should foreign students expect to work in relatively expensive industries that are losing employees in the US?

Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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I wonder if Chinese tech students who are unable to find jobs in sensitive sector in America will have to return to China, leading to a reverse brain drain.

The Chinese nuclear weapons program and missile program were both helped greatly when Qian Xuesen[1], one of the co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, returned to China during the Red Scare in the 1950s.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Xuesen

Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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Real problem is that the West decided to educate its competitors.

Now they can get other keep them and hurt their own tech workers or compete against them.

The real solution is to not the problem in the first place, by enforcing ITAR like regulations on education.

Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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There's been to many proofs that Chinese 'students' and 'researches' are actually well-organized spy circles, controlled from outside, both stealing every technology related stuff they can, and disseminating propaganda in the U.S. under direct supervision from China. They are not say like Russian or Indian students who try to adapt, blend into the ecosystem, and make it there. They are instruments in their State's hands. It's just a normal self-defense.

Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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post #6

There's been to many proofs that Chinese 'students' and 'researches' are actually well-organized spy circles, controlled from outside, both stealing every technology related stuff they can, and disseminating propaganda in the U.S. under direct supervision from China. They are not say like Russian or Indian students who try to adapt, blend into the ecosystem, and make it there. They are instruments in their State's ha…

Seriously dude?

Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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Who, exactly, doesn't understand that the US university system requires a certain number of grad students to have the research output it produces, and a great way to close that gap would be to improve secondary education in the US?

Also, I have a bit of ill will toward US universities that turns down US students in favor of Chinese students. I'm looking at you, UCSD.

Re: Why the doors to America are closing for Chinese tech students

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post #4

I wonder if Chinese tech students who are unable to find jobs in sensitive sector in America will have to return to China, leading to a reverse brain drain. The Chinese nuclear weapons program and missile program were both helped greatly when Qian Xuesen[1], one of the co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, returned to China during the Red Scare in the 1950s. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Xuesen

This can be particularly bad for the high-tech sector, think Intel, Qualcomm etc.
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