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Germans Who Refused to Execute Civilians During World War II (1988) [pdf]

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i get a [PDF] from the submission. no complaints from me but usually a tag [PDF] is appended to title. That being said there are those that just love the excuse of just following orders, and those that have a moral boundary stronger than a perceived social duty.

in a lot of cases there was a cloak such as, we are not told to do it immediately i have more efficient plans.

>Oskar Schindler (28 April 1908 - 9 October 1974) was a German industrialist and a member of the Nazi Party who is credited with saving the lives of 1,200 Jews during the Holocaust by employing them in his enamelware and ammunitions factories in occupied Poland and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.These people were declared essential servants and diverted from concentration.

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Interestingly, the Geneva Convention was barely used at all, and the "excuses" given were mostly based on the politics of the military instead.

That's because civilian protections where only added in 1949 to the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Convention as-of WW2 would only be applicable to PoWs, not civilians.

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In Dortmund, Germany, on Good Friday, a commemoration ceremony took place in the afternoon at the Bittermark memorial (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahnmal_Bittermark ). 300 POWs and resistance fighters were murdered there just weeks and days before the end of the war.

1700 demonstrators showed up this year. We must not forget.

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The last line resonated with me a lot "In every case of documented refusal to obey orders to exterminate people, the coercive powers of the Nazi system proved to be impotent or ineffective."

I would have expected the opposite. I guess this means, the structures of society and rule of of law were actually sort of still working, but that most people feared going against the zeitgeist.

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Interestingly, the Geneva Convention was barely used at all, and the "excuses" given were mostly based on the politics of the military instead.

Countries east of Germany were not signatories of the Geneva Convention as of WWII. The civilians of these countries were basically considered as and treated as cattle, including when they were kidnapped to inland Germany as slave labor. I don't think the Geneva Convention would change anything though...

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The last line resonated with me a lot "In every case of documented refusal to obey orders to exterminate people, the coercive powers of the Nazi system proved to be impotent or ineffective." I would have expected the opposite. I guess this means, the structures of society and rule of of law were actually sort of still working, but that most people feared going against the zeitgeist.

In fact, the Nazis had perverted the law and its rule but retained the structure of a lawful state, as chaos and anarchy were pretty much out of fashion in Germany after the 20s. Think of the Nazis as a gang of uneducated mobsters winning some decent hotel in a game of poker. They had to retain the reception, the service personal and the kitchen. But they behave disgustingly at every opportunity.

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i get a [PDF] from the submission. no complaints from me but usually a tag [PDF] is appended to title. That being said there are those that just love the excuse of just following orders, and those that have a moral boundary stronger than a perceived social duty. in a lot of cases there was a cloak such as, we are not told to do it immediately i have more efficient plans. >Oskar Schindler (28 April 1908 - 9 October 19…

Highly recommend watching this 4 minute piece about Sir Nicholas Winton. Makes you feel good about humans.

https://youtu.be/PKkgO06bAZk

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