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YouTube is trying to reward “quality” content

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Re: YouTube is trying to reward “quality” content

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I wonder if they could look at groups of users who up vote "bad" videos (as marked by their own internal reviewers), see what else they up vote, cluster those videos, and down promote them in their algorithm.

IOW use the users who like "bad" videos to help find other "bad" videos via an algorithm.

Re: YouTube is trying to reward “quality” content

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> Creating the right metric for success could help marginalize videos that are inappropriate, or popular among small but active communities with extreme views. So, deplatform what's not mainstream, accepted by the establishment, favorable to Google...

I don't think that deplatform is the right idea here. Presumably, the videos will still be present and watchable. However, the algorithms used to sort and present videos must be seen as playing an editorial role, and that brings a different set of questions.

Re: YouTube is trying to reward “quality” content

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post #4

I wonder if they could look at groups of users who up vote "bad" videos (as marked by their own internal reviewers), see what else they up vote, cluster those videos, and down promote them in their algorithm. IOW use the users who like "bad" videos to help find other "bad" videos via an algorithm.

That sounds easy to abuse. Just create some users, have them like obvious bad videos, then have them like videos of .

Re: YouTube is trying to reward “quality” content

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> The video service generates most of its revenue through advertising and the business works best when as many people as possible are spending as much time as possible on YouTube. Hence executives’ obsession with engagement stats. Adding murkier metrics to the mix could crimp ad revenue growth.

This is the core point of it. I've been critical of youtube for some time, but if they are willing to forgo some revenue growth in to deal with the current problems, I applaud them.

> The YouTube channel Red Ice TV broadcasts political videos with a “pro-European perspective,” which critics label as promoting white supremacy.

Bloomberg, you can call them Nazis. This is not a racist uncle that everyone needs to deal with, who can sometimes be reasoned with. These people are literally Nazis.

> YouTube declined to share details on how it uses metrics to rank and recommend videos. In a January blog post, the company said it was hiring human reviewers who would train its software based on guidelines that Google’s search business has used for years.

It's going to be tricky to get this to work, and I'm sure google will make many mistakes by automating decision making to a degree where it will prove to be meaningless, but finally there's going to be some human moderation. Thank you.

Re: YouTube is trying to reward “quality” content

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post #7
post #4

I wonder if they could look at groups of users who up vote "bad" videos (as marked by their own internal reviewers), see what else they up vote, cluster those videos, and down promote them in their algorithm. IOW use the users who like "bad" videos to help find other "bad" videos via an algorithm.

That sounds easy to abuse. Just create some users, have them like obvious bad videos, then have them like videos of .

Literally any algorithm that simple is easy to abuse, you need to integrate any algorithm with fraud detection and user trustworthiness assessment.
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