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Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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Regardless of one's political leanings, it's frightening that only one of the two major American political parties is even feigning interest at fixing what is clearly a vulnerable system.

This shouldn't be a partisan issue, but it somehow continues to be.

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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Criticisms of the underlying hardware/software aside, my intuitive answer to the headline question is "because governments are buying them."

Perhaps the esteemed Senators should undertake a short naval-gazing exercise and ask "how could there only be three major players in such a lucrative segment, each selling ancient hardware and crappy software products?"

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess at the answer to that question, and it likely shows those three companies as being the only ones with the patience and tenacity to get those models approved.

So Mr./Ms. Senator(s), I suggest you rephrase your question as follows: "how can we simplify the procurement process to make sure we, the government, are receiving the greatest value for our expenditures?"

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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Regardless of one's political leanings, it's frightening that only one of the two major American political parties is even feigning interest at fixing what is clearly a vulnerable system. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, but it somehow continues to be.

That's because one of the two political parties has only minority support and thus depends on a long list of dirty tricks to remain in power.

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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post #3

Criticisms of the underlying hardware/software aside, my intuitive answer to the headline question is "because governments are buying them." Perhaps the esteemed Senators should undertake a short naval-gazing exercise and ask "how could there only be three major players in such a lucrative segment, each selling ancient hardware and crappy software products?" I'm going to go out on a limb and guess at the answer to th…

"because governments are buying them."

The main problem in american politics is that a lot of decisions are made either to damage the "other" party or to accommodate some donor. When you look at Congress they barely think about doing something right.

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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I suppose it's more politically expedient to blame the companies trying to rationally minimize cost rather than risk reprimanding and alienating state and local officials who sign contracts for voting machines without any sort of serious security, auditing or compliance provisions.

This sure does seem like grandstanding from these senators. Probably not unrelated to fallout from the Mueller report.

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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post #5
post #3

Criticisms of the underlying hardware/software aside, my intuitive answer to the headline question is "because governments are buying them." Perhaps the esteemed Senators should undertake a short naval-gazing exercise and ask "how could there only be three major players in such a lucrative segment, each selling ancient hardware and crappy software products?" I'm going to go out on a limb and guess at the answer to th…

"because governments are buying them." The main problem in american politics is that a lot of decisions are made either to damage the "other" party or to accommodate some donor. When you look at Congress they barely think about doing something right.

Off topic question- but this is always something that interested me: do you have any blatant examples of a high level politician solely choosing a product to accommodate a donor?

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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post #4

Regardless of one's political leanings, it's frightening that only one of the two major American political parties is even feigning interest at fixing what is clearly a vulnerable system. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, but it somehow continues to be.

That's because one of the two political parties has only minority support and thus depends on a long list of dirty tricks to remain in power.

That's a gross misunderstanding of the electorate. The Republicans didn't have the national majority vote this presidential election, but in Congress that's irrelevant. Have you been to Utah, or any of the other heartland states? They have overwhelming majority support.

One of the worst problems in the country right now is that things have become so geographically polarized. Many people live so deep in their (red|blue) bubble that they don't even know anyone who votes for the other side.

Re: Senators ask why vendors sell voting machines with ‘known’ vulnerabilities’

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post #4

Regardless of one's political leanings, it's frightening that only one of the two major American political parties is even feigning interest at fixing what is clearly a vulnerable system. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, but it somehow continues to be.

That's because one of the two political parties has only minority support and thus depends on a long list of dirty tricks to remain in power.

I think it'd be disingenuous to call either party's support a "minority" when they collectively represent 55% of voters as of 2014. https://www.people-press.org/interactives/party-id-trend/
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