Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
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Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
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Re: Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
#2I really expected this article to be about photos of these draft dodgers drinking booze, making out with a guy, etc. But updating your Facebook profile on the Sabbath? That's hardcore attention to detail, Israel.
Re: Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
#3I really expected this article to be about photos of these draft dodgers drinking booze, making out with a guy, etc. But updating your Facebook profile on the Sabbath? That's hardcore attention to detail, Israel.
Checking when an update was posted strikes me as being easier to automate than checking photo contents.
Re: Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
#4Next thing you know they'll post their position to Facebook by accident and opponents will shoot rockets at them.
Re: Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
#5this is sad really, i served in IDF for 3 years, trained Infantry, learned so much stuff out there and wouldn't replace this time for anything.
now our youngsters just lie they religious to the army to skip it, but not because they are "flower children" who make peace and not war, it's because they are lazy fuc*kers who what to play the iPhone all day and watch TV and do nothing.
that's a great idea really, because if you're true religious, means you can't use any electrical stuff, not computers and not phones on Sabbath, and if you're updated your FB page you're just a lier.
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#6I really expected this article to be about photos of these draft dodgers drinking booze, making out with a guy, etc. But updating your Facebook profile on the Sabbath? That's hardcore attention to detail, Israel.
They were exempted from serving in the military on the basis that they're "religiously observant". That excludes using a computer on sabbath and eating in non-kosher restaurants.
Lie exposed → Exemption revoked.
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#7this is quite a problematic topic in Israel.
There are two point of views in the the country, Ashkenazy-European and Sfarady-Eastern.
The European point of view is that religion in true-false question. either you are religious or you are one. The Eastern point of view is the religion is more of a scale. you can accept some of the rules of the religion, skip the rest, and still be religious person.
The army obviously want to go the European way, as it gives it a clear definition that it can work with. On the other hand, the Eastern point of view is backed by a strong political force, so it is a very fine line that the army is walking on. it need to be very careful before accusing a girl of lying of being religious.
(and yes, when it makes mistakes it become a political argument. very messy)
All this and not a word about what about a religious girl that sometime after declaring itself as so decide to become not religious.
Re: Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
#8Couldn't she have hired some gentile to do the typing? Other than the "light a fire" thingy, I can't imagine Facebook being against any "work on the Sabbath" law. I'd actually propose that any minute spent on Facebook counts as some kind of indulgence for the purpose of work (Yes, I know, I'm mixing religions all willy-nilly now).
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#9This may sound harsh, but an army of slaves (i.e. conscripts) is incompatible with a free country. If the citizens can't be mustered to volunteer in its defense, the current state as a social organization becomes obsolete.
Granted, there are many Israelis who would indeed volunteer and militarily, they are not in danger.
Re: Israel uses Facebook to catch 1,000 draft dodgers
#10This may sound harsh, but an army of slaves (i.e. conscripts) is incompatible with a free country. If the citizens can't be mustered to volunteer in its defense, the current state as a social organization becomes obsolete. Granted, there are many Israelis who would indeed volunteer and militarily, they are not in danger.
This may be orthogonal to your point, but understand that only the willing actually serve in combat roles.
Granted all go through basic training and then reserve training periodically after they finish their service, but that's because in a time of real existential danger, everyone fights.