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Re: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger FAQ

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> So, what we do is take money and move it around into other businesses. The newspaper business earned great returns but not on incremental capital. But the people in the industry only knew how to reinvest it [so they squandered a lot of capital]. But our structure allows us to take excess capital and invest it elsewhere, wherever it makes the most sense. It's an enormous advantage.

Wow, they are playing the game at a higher order than I have even considered.

Re: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger FAQ

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> So, what we do is take money and move it around into other businesses. The newspaper business earned great returns but not on incremental capital. But the people in the industry only knew how to reinvest it [so they squandered a lot of capital]. But our structure allows us to take excess capital and invest it elsewhere, wherever it makes the most sense. It's an enormous advantage. Wow, they are playing the game at…

It’s always a circle of competency issue. Someone whose entire job is looking for good investments is going to find far more than someone running a business full time.

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> So, what we do is take money and move it around into other businesses. The newspaper business earned great returns but not on incremental capital. But the people in the industry only knew how to reinvest it [so they squandered a lot of capital]. But our structure allows us to take excess capital and invest it elsewhere, wherever it makes the most sense. It's an enormous advantage. Wow, they are playing the game at…

But Berkshire Hathaway ( or the world in general ) is also at a point where they have too much capital and there are very little low hanging fruit ( comparatively speaking ).

It is a lot easier to invest a few millions in a few very good small business, but once you need to invest hundreds of billions, all of a sudden you have very little choices.

Re: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger FAQ

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> What are the economic characteristics that make Kraft a good business? WB: Most big food businesses are good businesses in that they earn good returns on tangible assets. If you own important branded assets in this country, and you have good assets, it is not easy to take on those products. Just imagine Coca-Cola. They sell 1.5 billion servings every day. It has been in everyone’s mind since 1886—associated with good value, happiness and refreshment. It is virtually impossible to take it on in a huge way. It may not be the same with Kraft. Kool-Aid, but I’m not sure I want to take on Kool-Aid. To implant RC Cola in people’s minds globally is very, very difficult. A brand is a promise. Coca-Cola delivers something to you. Virgin Cola — an unusual promise in a product—tried and couldn’t figure it out. Whatever it was, it didn’t work. Don Keough would know. Who would buy a can for two-cents-a-can less than Coca-Cola? We feel pretty good about branded products if they’re leaders in their field. There is nothing unusual about Kraft that’s different from Kellogg. Some good factors are price. If you don’t pay too much, you will do okay. But you won’t get superrich, as the attributes [of a strong brand] are well recognized.

Source: BRK Annual Meeting 2008 Boodell Notes URL: Time: 2008

He was very wrong on this. Kraft just wrote-down $15 billion. Their brands have lost their "cachet." Nobody wants them nor needs them -- you're either buying a gourmet, healthy version (i.e. real cheese instead of the plastic block Velveeta) or a store's private label.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/warr...

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> What are the economic characteristics that make Kraft a good business? WB: Most big food businesses are good businesses in that they earn good returns on tangible assets. If you own important branded assets in this country, and you have good assets, it is not easy to take on those products. Just imagine Coca-Cola. They sell 1.5 billion servings every day. It has been in everyone’s mind since 1886—associated with go…

In general, he's right you would think. Tough to displace a brand like Coke entrenched since 1886. Similarly, it might be tough to beat Apple/Disney at what they make for a while. Kraft might have faced other problems (poorly run or got disrupted or didn't acquire enough companies), but whatever it might be, it is an invaluable learning curve for them.

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> What are the economic characteristics that make Kraft a good business? WB: Most big food businesses are good businesses in that they earn good returns on tangible assets. If you own important branded assets in this country, and you have good assets, it is not easy to take on those products. Just imagine Coca-Cola. They sell 1.5 billion servings every day. It has been in everyone’s mind since 1886—associated with go…

And I'd imagine not many people associate "happiness and refreshment" with Coca-Cola anymore.

Re: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger FAQ

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> What are the economic characteristics that make Kraft a good business? WB: Most big food businesses are good businesses in that they earn good returns on tangible assets. If you own important branded assets in this country, and you have good assets, it is not easy to take on those products. Just imagine Coca-Cola. They sell 1.5 billion servings every day. It has been in everyone’s mind since 1886—associated with go…

> He was very wrong on this.

How many billions do you have :)

On a serious note, lot of people over the years keep saying Buffett is wrong yet in the end when banks need money they go to Buffett.

Re: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger FAQ

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> What are the economic characteristics that make Kraft a good business? WB: Most big food businesses are good businesses in that they earn good returns on tangible assets. If you own important branded assets in this country, and you have good assets, it is not easy to take on those products. Just imagine Coca-Cola. They sell 1.5 billion servings every day. It has been in everyone’s mind since 1886—associated with go…

Kraft is mostly valuable because of it's extremely wide distribution. They can buy up any boutique brand they like. Which is something they already do.

You will find that Kraft actually owns many of the "high end" brands out there and that they also provide product for many generic store brands.

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