Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
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Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#2Will this end up another misguided "think of the children" measure that will just make more consentual adult sex illegal? Or will it be accepted with open arms by dating sites who want all your PII to sell? ('anonymised' of course) (CoughmatchCough)
Am I just jaded or does this seem to be the way things are going?
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#3There is the danger that if these services don’t nip this in the bud, it’ll become a social problem akin to enjo-Kosai in Japan, which not only lends itself to exploitation of minors but also encourages needless conspicuous consumerism.
For the most part, aside from using someone else’s credit information, these businesses have information on age and with facial recognition should be able to flag most falsified accounts.
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#4Will this end up another misguided "think of the children" measure that will just make more consentual adult sex illegal? Or will it be accepted with open arms by dating sites who want all your PII to sell? ('anonymised' of course) (CoughmatchCough) Am I just jaded or does this seem to be the way things are going?
> Will this end up another misguided "think of the children" measure that will just make more consentual adult sex illegal?
What do you mean by “another”? When has regulating sex with children had the effect of making consensual adult sex illegal?
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#5The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff.
In these cases, how are children getting in first? Where are the parents of these children??
Then, it's not the apps that create abuse, but the users on the other side. There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with, and remind from time to time, like be kind, don't get angry if it doesn't work out, report strange behaviors/underage profiles/illegal stuff if you happen to detect one, ...
Is it that complicated to be adults in 2019?
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#6and the scope creep for the bad Online Identification begins. First it was no porn, then it was no dating. Soon it will be no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID. Disconnect the UK before the damage spreads!
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#7Will this end up another misguided "think of the children" measure that will just make more consentual adult sex illegal? Or will it be accepted with open arms by dating sites who want all your PII to sell? ('anonymised' of course) (CoughmatchCough) Am I just jaded or does this seem to be the way things are going?
> Will this end up another misguided "think of the children" measure that will just make more consentual adult sex illegal? What do you mean by “another”? When has regulating sex with children had the effect of making consensual adult sex illegal?
The UK has been pushing making adults register (with their ISP) to be able to access porn. Because of the children.
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#8The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. In these cases, how are children getting in first? Where are the parents of these children?? Then, it's not the apps that create abuse, but the users on the other side. There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with, and remind from time to time, like be kind, don't get angry if it doesn't work out, report strange behaviors/und…
I imagine that teenagers will figure out how to get around the age checks, and then it will escalate.
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#9Will this end up another misguided "think of the children" measure that will just make more consentual adult sex illegal? Or will it be accepted with open arms by dating sites who want all your PII to sell? ('anonymised' of course) (CoughmatchCough) Am I just jaded or does this seem to be the way things are going?
You're not just jaded. "Trafficking" has become a vehicle for the religious right to shut down anything they don't like, from robot brothels [1] to, in this case, hookup apps. And nobody is for trafficking, so politicians from across the spectrum tend to go along with it.
It's been this way since at least the Mann Act, which was ostensibly about trafficking but used to crack down on interracial relationships (notably by Jack Johnson, who recently got a posthumous pardon)
"Remember when some tea company added "blockchain" to its name and stock prices soared? "Trafficking" is the equivalent word in the policy / non-profit world." -- Alex Frell Levy [2]
[1] https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/30/houston-robo...
Re: Dating apps face questions over age checks after report exposes child abuse
#10One question - where the heck are these kids' parents? I think most people on dating apps are under the impression that other users are of legal age.
If your child is searching for adult partners, complete strangers, over the Internet, you as a parent have a lot to answer for.
That being said, none of that justifies what happened to the minors mentioned in the article. Ultimately, there are a lot of bad people out there. It would be great for children to not be exposed to such people.
But I think the necessary change is parental supervision, not government intervention.