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The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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Troy won’t store the passwords associated with the username, which is a choice I can absolutely respect.

But as he discusses in the post, that leaves users knowing that their email address was in the data dump, but with no way of knowing which site it came from, or what password was breached.

So while this increases the number of records in HIBP, and perhaps makes the password popularity tracker a bit more comprehensive, it still leaves users exposed.

I know which password of yours was breached, and that information is now effectively public, but you probably don’t know where to find it yourself, and I won’t tell you which one it was. So I guess just assume all your passwords are cracked and use a password manager.

I don’t really hold it against Troy, because again, I respect his decision not to store plains directly associated with usernames. He did as much as he was willing to with the data, and it’s better than nothing, but not great all the same.

Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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This is frankly terrifying and very ironic.

Websites put so much effort into tracking every little thing about their users, from where they come from to what they do. Hotjar (https://hotjar.com) goes ahead and tracks mouse movements and now we even have crazy f-ed up startups like Peekmap (https://peekmap.com) that claim to predict eye gaze without the webcam.

And yet they get pwned so easily.

So much effort into violating user privacy, so little effort into enforcing user security.

Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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post #2

Troy won’t store the passwords associated with the username, which is a choice I can absolutely respect. But as he discusses in the post, that leaves users knowing that their email address was in the data dump, but with no way of knowing which site it came from, or what password was breached. So while this increases the number of records in HIBP, and perhaps makes the password popularity tracker a bit more comprehens…

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Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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post #3

This is frankly terrifying and very ironic. Websites put so much effort into tracking every little thing about their users, from where they come from to what they do. Hotjar ( https://hotjar.com ) goes ahead and tracks mouse movements and now we even have crazy f-ed up startups like Peekmap ( https://peekmap.com ) that claim to predict eye gaze without the webcam. And yet they get pwned so easily. So much effort into…

and receive no meaningful legal consequences. These people should be on the hook for all damage done with this dump, but they won't be, so it doesn't really matter. It's not ironic, it's just business as usual.

Collecting data on users should be extremely risky, even if they consent to it's collection.

Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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post #2

Troy won’t store the passwords associated with the username, which is a choice I can absolutely respect. But as he discusses in the post, that leaves users knowing that their email address was in the data dump, but with no way of knowing which site it came from, or what password was breached. So while this increases the number of records in HIBP, and perhaps makes the password popularity tracker a bit more comprehens…

He has a service that lets you enter a password to check if it’s been pwned though. I guess these are disassociated from user emails?

Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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post #2

Troy won’t store the passwords associated with the username, which is a choice I can absolutely respect. But as he discusses in the post, that leaves users knowing that their email address was in the data dump, but with no way of knowing which site it came from, or what password was breached. So while this increases the number of records in HIBP, and perhaps makes the password popularity tracker a bit more comprehens…

He has the "Pwned Password" search to allow you to narrow it down and he has a really good article that he links to explaining why despite its inconvenience.

If I was him I'd do the same. HIBP is a side project of his and I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I have the responsibility of securing billions of email & password combinations.

At the risk of the breach of those accounts adding fuel to the credential stuffing fire and reducing his overall credibility when providing security advice which is his primary occupation.

Too risky.

Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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post #2

Troy won’t store the passwords associated with the username, which is a choice I can absolutely respect. But as he discusses in the post, that leaves users knowing that their email address was in the data dump, but with no way of knowing which site it came from, or what password was breached. So while this increases the number of records in HIBP, and perhaps makes the password popularity tracker a bit more comprehens…

The slightly annoying thing here is that I already use a password manager, so while the impact to me is minimal, I wish I knew which password specifically I have to rotate, instead of assuming that I need to rotate, like, all of them...

Re: The 773M Record “Collection #1” Data Breach

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post #3

This is frankly terrifying and very ironic. Websites put so much effort into tracking every little thing about their users, from where they come from to what they do. Hotjar ( https://hotjar.com ) goes ahead and tracks mouse movements and now we even have crazy f-ed up startups like Peekmap ( https://peekmap.com ) that claim to predict eye gaze without the webcam. And yet they get pwned so easily. So much effort into…

and receive no meaningful legal consequences. These people should be on the hook for all damage done with this dump, but they won't be, so it doesn't really matter. It's not ironic, it's just business as usual. Collecting data on users should be extremely risky, even if they consent to it's collection.

Exactly. It’s a matter of incentives. Without laws with teeth (IE, both consequences and enforcement), this will never change.
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