Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
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Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#2People often forget these leetcode interviews guard the top wages in industry. If you remove them any bootcamp cowboy or people who can't code will get in and make same wage increasing competition among workers and pushing down wage.
Those who don't get selected keep complaining because other leetcoders are making high salaries while they don't.
Many want to install their wife in these companies and are actively complaining for diversity and putting it against interviews, so that once these requirements are relaxed for women, their household will double the income.
People job hop every year, so it's impossible to tell who has been fired for bad performance/inability to code vs high performer who is simply job hopping for increased pay/interesting project when hiring for your company. Also you can't get the performance data from their previous employer, you can only verify they worked there, nothing more.
Even if you simply cannot code, it takes a year least in big companies to fire you.
It's easy to fake portfolio and talk the programmer lingo than to walk the talk by coding.
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#3I’m not sure I necessarily agree with the argument put forth here, but it does raise an important point: to the extent that hiring and working practices are at odds with diversity, companies are going to have to choose which one to keep. Everywhere I’ve worked so far has mostly wanted to keep everything the same but sprinkle on some magic diversity dust. That approach is not likely to work much longer.
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#4People often forget these leetcode interviews guard the top wages in industry. If you remove them any bootcamp cowboy or people who can't code will get in and make same wage increasing competition among workers and pushing down wage. Those who don't get selected keep complaining because other leetcoders are making high salaries while they don't. Many want to install their wife in these companies and are actively comp…
You perfectly exemplify the toxic behavior described in the article :(
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#5Don't see how leetcode causes diversity problem... Very weak argument tbh. Even though it's a broken system but in other ways.
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#6People often forget these leetcode interviews guard the top wages in industry. If you remove them any bootcamp cowboy or people who can't code will get in and make same wage increasing competition among workers and pushing down wage. Those who don't get selected keep complaining because other leetcoders are making high salaries while they don't. Many want to install their wife in these companies and are actively comp…
You perfectly exemplify the toxic behavior described in the article :(
How convenient this would be the first comment.
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#7>How did we get here?
People apply to coding jobs that literally cannot code .. like at all.
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#8People often forget these leetcode interviews guard the top wages in industry. If you remove them any bootcamp cowboy or people who can't code will get in and make same wage increasing competition among workers and pushing down wage. Those who don't get selected keep complaining because other leetcoders are making high salaries while they don't. Many want to install their wife in these companies and are actively comp…
You perfectly exemplify the toxic behavior described in the article :(
Can you support that with arguments instead of reflecting with "you're part of the problem"?
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#9People often forget these leetcode interviews guard the top wages in industry. If you remove them any bootcamp cowboy or people who can't code will get in and make same wage increasing competition among workers and pushing down wage. Those who don't get selected keep complaining because other leetcoders are making high salaries while they don't. Many want to install their wife in these companies and are actively comp…
> Many want to install their wife in these companies [...] their household will double the income.
A husband-and-wife team in a company is like a "mini-union". By feeding intel to each other and playing office politics in unison, they can nudge their household income up to triple.
Re: Tech's diversity problem is because of toxic LeetCode interviews
#10In my experience these "leetcode" interviews are just one part of several interviews. They still look toward people interactions in other interviews with managers, etc. So it's not prioritization over interaction, it's a filter for those that can't really program so they can then continue to interview and learn their personal skills as a team member. I.e. why waste a manager's time with a poor candidate.
If it wasn't the coding question interviews that warranted complaint it would be the personality interviews. I've seen plenty of people dropped because while they were smart, they were shit at working with other people. So yeah, hiring is a series of filters. That's life imo.