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EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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As with most interesting problems, this legislation hasn't been written with a focus on what sort of end-results are easiest to arrive at a technical solution for. This article characterises that as 'magic wand regulating' -- I'd hate to see an alternative where EU directives contain explicit technical implementation guidance!

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Policies like this make it glaringly obvious how little our government representatives around the world understand technology.

It almost seems malicious, or at the very least anticompetitive. Who has access to such filtering systems already, or the resources to create one?

GRPR regulations, while I absolutely realize their necessity, have made it difficult for me to expand my side business into the EU. This would just be another road block for innovation.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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I tend to put GDPR and this Copyright bill in different camps. The copyright bill is insane. GDPR is... also a bit insane, but the hard parts shine light on what we probably should have been doing which are now hard to do because we've spent so long ignoring the ethical elephant in the room. GDPR is very far from perfect, but I think it's still directionally good. The copyright bill is just bad.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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As with most interesting problems, this legislation hasn't been written with a focus on what sort of end-results are easiest to arrive at a technical solution for. This article characterises that as 'magic wand regulating' -- I'd hate to see an alternative where EU directives contain explicit technical implementation guidance!

This is not really about technical solutions. It's about an understanding of how computers work. The underlying assumption is that companies _will_ build technology that is as good as the law requires it to be. Large companies very well might, but this is a killer for small businesses.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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You guys might be interested in my startup. We are going to provide a copyright content registration service as well as a vetting service for 3rd parties to upload user posts which are then scanned against the registered content.

What's the pricing scheme?

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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post #3

Policies like this make it glaringly obvious how little our government representatives around the world understand technology. It almost seems malicious, or at the very least anticompetitive. Who has access to such filtering systems already, or the resources to create one? GRPR regulations, while I absolutely realize their necessity, have made it difficult for me to expand my side business into the EU. This would jus…

I think they do understand exactly what is going on but they know that upload filters are faulty almost always in favor of people with money. Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content but they also take out a load of legitimate content. Its now up to the content owner to prove that their content was fair use or that its not even the same thing as the copyrighted content.

In the end the big companies win and the individuals lose.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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post #3

Policies like this make it glaringly obvious how little our government representatives around the world understand technology. It almost seems malicious, or at the very least anticompetitive. Who has access to such filtering systems already, or the resources to create one? GRPR regulations, while I absolutely realize their necessity, have made it difficult for me to expand my side business into the EU. This would jus…

I think they do understand exactly what is going on but they know that upload filters are faulty almost always in favor of people with money. Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content but they also take out a load of legitimate content. Its now up to the content owner to prove that their content was fair use or that its not even the same thin…

> Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content

Youtube's filter removed the audio track from a video of mine that was essentially silent to start with. There was certainly no music, TV, movie, etc... in the background.

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