Monsanto accused by legal opponents of hiring internet trolls
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Monsanto accused by legal opponents of hiring internet trolls
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#2Send those responsible to court or slap a fine on it but that's not the problem. The problem is that everyone believes what Joe or Jane Doe posts on the internet, no matter who pays them.
Have reporters query (non corporate) scientists skilled in the subject, let the mad blabbermouth era be over and live the life of information again.
Re: Monsanto accused by legal opponents of hiring internet trolls
#3Send those responsible to court or slap a fine on it but that's not the problem. The problem is that everyone believes what Joe or Jane Doe posts on the internet, no matter who pays them. Have reporters query (non corporate) scientists skilled in the subject, let the mad blabbermouth era be over and live the life of information again.
Doesn't sound like a solution that gets a ton of people rich... pass! /s
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#4This is disgusting. A younger version of myself fell for this nonsense - its embarrassing to admit, but I think its worthwhile to point out that there are ordinary people that get caught up in it.
This kind of thing really breaks down trust in online communications, which I suppose in hindsight means I should have been less trusting in the first place.
I'd like to think real name policies (like Facebook's) would deal with this sort of thing, but clearly it doesn't, and causes a whole host of other problems. What's the solution here?
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#5> Trolls
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Re: Monsanto accused by legal opponents of hiring internet trolls
#6Send those responsible to court or slap a fine on it but that's not the problem. The problem is that everyone believes what Joe or Jane Doe posts on the internet, no matter who pays them. Have reporters query (non corporate) scientists skilled in the subject, let the mad blabbermouth era be over and live the life of information again.
> The problem is that everyone believes what Joe or Jane Doe posts on the internet, no matter who pays them.
My default is to assume everything on the internet (and print) is at worst an outright lie and at best a slanted half truth. Am I the minority?
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#7They've been everywhere for years and discussion about "Monsanto shills" and their "50 cent army" has been ongoing, always resulting in being called a crank conspiracy theorist by other shill accounts - as well as the terminally naïve. Interesting that the actual policy was to leave no comment uncontested, no matter the size of the forum, anywhere on the net. How much did they spend on this multi decade long campaign?
In addition to the phenomenon of tons of people you never saw or heard from before suddenly appearing in an obscure forum to attack anyone who questioned Monsanto's claims, we also say high profile and prominent trusted commenters who were shilling as well.
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#8They've been everywhere for years and discussion about "Monsanto shills" and their "50 cent army" has been ongoing, always resulting in being called a crank conspiracy theorist by other shill accounts - as well as the terminally naïve. Interesting that the actual policy was to leave no comment uncontested, no matter the size of the forum, anywhere on the net. How much did they spend on this multi decade long campaign…
> How much did they spend on this multi decade long campaign?
I would bet they had to pay no more than 10 people full time, lets say at $20/hr. That is an order of magnitude cheaper than advertising.
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#9It does not surprise me. They've been extremely active on reddit and HN for years. You cannot say anything bad about Monsanto without at least a dozen of people coming at you with bullshit studies defending Monsanto products/ techs. This is a confirmation that indeed, Monsanto paid shills to systematically answer comments on internet forums to counter any criticism of that company.
This is obviously not the only company engaged in this, but the scale is insane, each time I left a comment regarding the latest Monsanto VS a farmer that got cancer due to Monsanto's product case, at least 30/50 comments were left as an answer. It happened only on Monsanto threads.
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#10They've been everywhere for years and discussion about "Monsanto shills" and their "50 cent army" has been ongoing, always resulting in being called a crank conspiracy theorist by other shill accounts - as well as the terminally naïve. Interesting that the actual policy was to leave no comment uncontested, no matter the size of the forum, anywhere on the net. How much did they spend on this multi decade long campaign…
I don't understand how they apparently managed to monitor every single forum on FB.
I was discussing something entirely tangential in a FB forum about something irrelevant once, Roundup was mentioned, and two posters immediately appeared to aggressively push the corporate line.
Does FB make private monitoring APIs available to corporates? If so, that's questionably legal in a number of countries.
Or did Monsanto really build/hire a firehose barrel to monitor everything in real time?