Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by sbenitez » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 4:56 PM UTC

Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries
rocket.rs

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by hermanradtke » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 5:33 PM UTC

Once rocket makes it to stable, I think it will be the go to choice for web development in Rust. The focus on creating a great developer story makes rocket a joy to use.

I am shocked that Sergio maintained rocket alone for so long. I would have figured there was a team of 3-4 people working on rocket. Glad to see he is getting help!

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by vhakulinen » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 5:45 PM UTC

hermanradtke wrote: post #2

Once rocket makes it to stable, I think it will be the go to choice for web development in Rust. The focus on creating a great developer story makes rocket a joy to use. I am shocked that Sergio maintained rocket alone for so long. I would have figured there was a team of 3-4 people working on rocket. Glad to see he is getting help!

I'm really eager to push for use of rocket (and thus rust) at work, but while rocket being on version 0.x it probably is a tough sell. The benefits rocket (at least seems to) bring feels obvious and I notice every now and then at work that "hey, this would be so easy to do with rocket".

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by osrec » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 5:49 PM UTC

I've never tried Rust or Rocket, but it appears to be gaining popularity, so I have the following questions for existing users:

What's it like to work with? Do you prefer it to JS/PHP/Python for web related projects?

Can you iterate on code quickly, or is there a compile step on every iteration?

Are there stable libraries for interacting with MySQL/Redis/Postgres asynchronously?

Is there good IDE support, for example in Atom?

Thanks!

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by rapsey » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 5:50 PM UTC

hermanradtke wrote: post #2

Once rocket makes it to stable, I think it will be the go to choice for web development in Rust. The focus on creating a great developer story makes rocket a joy to use. I am shocked that Sergio maintained rocket alone for so long. I would have figured there was a team of 3-4 people working on rocket. Glad to see he is getting help!

Are ther plans to get to stable?

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by plainOldText » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 5:52 PM UTC

I've toyed with various Rust web frameworks and I think rocket is one of the most promising. A thought out, high quality project. The person behind it strikes me as someone who pays attention to details, from the codebase, docs, all the way to the presentational website. Kudos!

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by grayrest » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 6:02 PM UTC

vhakulinen wrote: post #3

hermanradtke wrote: post #2

Once rocket makes it to stable, I think it will be the go to choice for web development in Rust. The focus on creating a great developer story makes rocket a joy to use. I am shocked that Sergio maintained rocket alone for so long. I would have figured there was a team of 3-4 people working on rocket. Glad to see he is getting help!

I'm really eager to push for use of rocket (and thus rust) at work, but while rocket being on version 0.x it probably is a tough sell. The benefits rocket (at least seems to) bring feels obvious and I notice every now and then at work that "hey, this would be so easy to do with rocket".

As a whole, Rust developers see 1.0 as a stability commitment and to my knowledge, everybody (well, not Rouille) wants to be async and depend on Futures 1.0. I believe Futures 0.3 is most of the way to where the Futures team wants 1.0 to be and the initial roadmap was trying for 1.0 in 2018 so my uninformed guess is that we'll see Futures 1.0 in the first half of 2019. I expect the whole Rust network server ecosystem to shift around over the coming months as Futures and async/await come online in the next few months.

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by thsowers » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 6:05 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #5

hermanradtke wrote: post #2

Once rocket makes it to stable, I think it will be the go to choice for web development in Rust. The focus on creating a great developer story makes rocket a joy to use. I am shocked that Sergio maintained rocket alone for so long. I would have figured there was a team of 3-4 people working on rocket. Glad to see he is getting help!

Are ther plans to get to stable?

Yes, progress is tracked here: https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket/issues/19

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by grayrest » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 6:06 PM UTC

rapsey wrote: post #5

hermanradtke wrote: post #2

Once rocket makes it to stable, I think it will be the go to choice for web development in Rust. The focus on creating a great developer story makes rocket a joy to use. I am shocked that Sergio maintained rocket alone for so long. I would have figured there was a team of 3-4 people working on rocket. Glad to see he is getting help!

Are ther plans to get to stable?

The plan was always to get on stable[1]. Sergio just wasn't willing to compromise on the API to make it happen sooner and I appreciate that since it's a motivation to stabilize the things Rocket depends on. The release notes being discussed here mention that Rocket should be on stable with the next major (Rocket) release.

[1] https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket/issues/19

edit: specify Rocket release, not Rust release

Re: Rocket v0.4: Typed URIs, Database Support, Revamped Queries

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Post by jlangenauer » Sat, Dec 08, 2018, 6:19 PM UTC

osrec wrote: post #4

I've never tried Rust or Rocket, but it appears to be gaining popularity, so I have the following questions for existing users: What's it like to work with? Do you prefer it to JS/PHP/Python for web related projects? Can you iterate on code quickly, or is there a compile step on every iteration? Are there stable libraries for interacting with MySQL/Redis/Postgres asynchronously? Is there good IDE support, for example…

It's a bit rough to work with still - the IDE support is still a work in progress (though improving) and there is a compile step with every iteration (incremental compilation has improved this too).

Diesel is the main library for interacting with SQL databases, it wasn't async last time I used it, and a quick web search tells me it still isn't - this has been a BIG problem with Rust over the last year, as everyone waits for the async implementation to finally become stable.

Rust is a funny beast at the moment - you have to deal with the learning curve, you have to deal with the unstable/pre-1.0 libraries (some of which are fine), you have to deal with all the errors the compiler throws at you.

But once you've done all that, something magical happens: you end up with software that is mind-blowingly stable and blazingly fast. It doesn't throw segfaults, it doesn't leak memory, it just works, and works amazingly well.