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For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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tldr; Thanksgiving was traditionally celebrated in the north, with "northern" food, and after it was made a national holiday by Lincoln the confederate states refused to acknowledge it.

I'm curious about Native Americans though. A lot of their culture and resistance has been lost today, but back around the birth of the holiday I can imagine them finding it offensive and being vocal about it, if not due to politics and tradition, due to the hypocrisy of it.

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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The Fourth of July wasn’t strongly celebrated until the 90s (after Gulf War I) in the small southern town I was living in during the 80s/90s. Something about still being bitter about the Civil War (which we were taught was not about slavery, but states rights, ugh).

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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tldr; Thanksgiving was traditionally celebrated in the north, with "northern" food, and after it was made a national holiday by Lincoln the confederate states refused to acknowledge it. I'm curious about Native Americans though. A lot of their culture and resistance has been lost today, but back around the birth of the holiday I can imagine them finding it offensive and being vocal about it, if not due to politics an…

Smithsonian magazine has a number of articles that try to bring more balance to the history.

Everyone's history matters: The Wampanoag Indian Thanksgiving story deserves to be known

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/blogs/national-museum-america...

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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post #3

tldr; Thanksgiving was traditionally celebrated in the north, with "northern" food, and after it was made a national holiday by Lincoln the confederate states refused to acknowledge it. I'm curious about Native Americans though. A lot of their culture and resistance has been lost today, but back around the birth of the holiday I can imagine them finding it offensive and being vocal about it, if not due to politics an…

Native Americans are still one of the most ignored groups, I think they quit being vocal due to the fact it's a lost cause.

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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The Fourth of July wasn’t strongly celebrated until the 90s (after Gulf War I) in the small southern town I was living in during the 80s/90s. Something about still being bitter about the Civil War (which we were taught was not about slavery, but states rights, ugh).

It was about the right of a state to ignore federal laws regarding slavery due to the economics involved.

We are seeing another such issue crop up where the federal govt is declaring weed illegal and the states are saying it is legal.

Funny how the DEA can still bust people in legal weed states isnt it ?

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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The Fourth of July wasn’t strongly celebrated until the 90s (after Gulf War I) in the small southern town I was living in during the 80s/90s. Something about still being bitter about the Civil War (which we were taught was not about slavery, but states rights, ugh).

The states rights thing is pervasive. I was taught the same thing in a public school all the way up North in Michigan. (late 90s, early 2000s)

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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"Modern Thanksgiving was first officially called for in all states in 1863 by a presidential proclamation of Abraham Lincoln. [...]Lincoln proclaimed a national Thanksgiving on the final Thursday in November, explicitly in celebration of the bounties that had continued to fall on the Union and for the military successes in the war." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving

It's easy to see why the "Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Nothern Aggression" from Lincoln's action. He extended the meaning of the celebration to include victory of the North over the South, and asked the South to observe it, according to wikipedia.

Re: For Decades, Southern States Saw Thanksgiving as an Act of Northern Aggression

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The Fourth of July wasn’t strongly celebrated until the 90s (after Gulf War I) in the small southern town I was living in during the 80s/90s. Something about still being bitter about the Civil War (which we were taught was not about slavery, but states rights, ugh).

Was your state one that replaced Martin Luther King Jr. Day with some variation of Robert E. Lee Day?
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